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Originally posted by Radagast As much research as you've obviously put into this you blatantly have not idea what you're talking about. Actually you see a lot of muscular men very tall. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lou Ferrigno, most Heayweight pro Bodybuilders, most NBA Players, Most NFL Wide Recievers...blah blah. If your expert observation is even true (which I doubt), it could only be because it's easier for short people to look muscular in the first place. Their limbs are shorter and they need less total muscle mass to look equally as muscular as a taller person.

ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft

pumping iron in your upper body wont stunt your growth because the length of your arms doesnt mean jack and your back has the padding and henceforth the growth plates on the end of each bone dont fuse. the major part of growth is in 3 three major bones in each leg. if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse. other things that can cause stunted growth are injuries that crack or fracture the growth plate. i broke my ankle at the age of 17 which cracked the growth plate. luckily for me i only grew about 5cm in the last 3 years before i stopped growing however one of my bones in my lower right leg is approx .5cm shorter than the other which does feel kinda weird.

and you asked what research i did? i had proper consultations with my doctor after i broke this ankle and he has had a proper medical schooling. what research did you do? think of nba basketballers who arent tanked very much at all and big old arnie who started his steroid fuelled bodybuilding at the age of 20

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Originally posted by osuracnaes I think growth hormones given during early teen years can help a little. But you really don't have to worry - 5'6" here, 20yo. Height doesn't bother me. Now if I could just get my weight above 45 kilos.....

growth hormone does not stimulate bone growth to my understanding

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Originally posted by -=M=- ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft

In their high school years. They're not in the pro's because they just started playing football and working out in their 20's. Arnie is 6'2". Lou Ferrigno is 6'4".

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Originally posted by -=M=- if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse.

Says you.

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Originally posted by -=M=- and you asked what research i did? i had proper consultations with my doctor after i broke this ankle and he has had a proper medical schooling.

So your doctor told you that weightlifting stunts growth?

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Originally posted by -=M=- arnie who started his steroid fuelled bodybuilding at the age of 20 ffs

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Originally posted by -=M=- ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft pumping iron in your upper body wont stunt your growth because the length of your arms doesnt mean jack and your back has the padding and henceforth the growth plates on the end of each bone dont fuse. the major part of growth is in 3 three major bones in each leg. if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse.

No, no. Three times no!

That's an interesting theory except for the fact that aerobic exercise such as running or playing basketball exerts more weight on your legs than squats or leg presses for all but the most elite weightlifters.

Don't believe it? Go buy a force plate for $200 and jump on it and watch as your legs receive 4x your bodyweight in pressure. It's simple physics really, the acceleration of your bodyweight downwards is obviously going to create greater force than your original mass.

But the only way that you're going to stunt your growth is by applying enough pressure to injure yourself, because pressure doesn't have anything to do with ossification. It is the process of calcification of the hyaline cartilage between the epiphyses and the diaphysis that limits bone growth. The calcification of the hyaline cartilage is governed primarily by the amount of cartilage produced during secondary ossification - it has nothing to do with pressure exerted on the skeletal structure and even if it did it would be jumping, not weight training, which would lead to stunted growth. The only way to stunt your growth by lifting weights is to cause an injury in the area which diverts resources away from the production of osteoblasts which deposit the cartilage in the epiphyseal plate.

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Originally posted by Arbiter The only way to stunt your growth by lifting weights is to cause an injury in the area which diverts resources away from the production of osteoblasts which deposit the cartilage in the epiphyseal plate.

yes, the growth plate, and an injury is caused how? by excerting too much weight on it.

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Originally posted by -=M=- yes, the growth plate, and an injury is caused how? by excerting too much weight on it.

Right, so as long as your exercise proper training technique you have nothing to worry about.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess when you are sleeping get your brother to tie your legs to the bottom of the bed and your arms to the top as far stretched out as they go and sleep like that. the next day you will have to do it again but you will notice you are stretched out more.

wont that just make u lanky?

he'll end up with oversized arms and legs

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Originally posted by Arbiter Right, so as long as your exercise proper training technique you have nothing to worry about.

exactly

eh? five times a day?

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lol most of these posts are useless, im 6 feet tall and growing ..working out is essential for your body u dont wonna be 6'3 and skinny ;you rather be 6' and built

Look, I know 1 guy whos in his 20s who trained his legs with this gym machine(u know,the one where u sit and push the weights up with ur legs,no, not leg curls), he lost 2 inches in height apparently because of doing too much of that exercise. I mean ffs, 2 inches in height! Thats why I'm a little skeptic. I dont know which fact/myth to believe.

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Originally posted by trewqy I've been pumping iron for the past few months..just when i realised i only grew a cm .I only do bench presses and dumbell lifting.Just to bulk up my upperbody. Basically any weight training that occupies a large amount of legs usage..i totally avoid. When I just turned 17(early 2003) I was around 176..now i'm about 181(late 2004)I grew 5 cm... in 1 and a half years.Is that good? I've totally quit alcohol for now(at least until i totally stop growing taller) cause doctors says it will help decrease ur growth rate..I sleep quite a lot.Sometimes do jumping jacks when I wake up(does this really help?)I even sit with a better posture just to improve my spinal chord.A bad spine= lose a few inches in terms of growth. And yeah I do drink milk almost everyday.

Do some of you people seriously think that you are going to grow taller by pumping iron?



You don't stop growing until you are about 21. This obviously varies from person to person. It seems that some people are making assumptions of causation based on correlation, and they are ignoring the rational answers.

ie "I have been pumping iron and now i have grown taller" =/=
Pumping iron caused me to grow taller. Just because they happened around the same time, it does not mean that one caused the other.


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Last edited by A.J. on Aug-18-2004 at 16:05