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Originally posted by Radagast 1. Illegal sites like these are spread by word of mouth. 2. There are many legal and illegal alternatives to this site. 3. The other alternative sites to this which have free MP3's and which are even more damaging than this site are not allowed to be posted, yet this one is stickied. Now how does people buying the tracks make this site any more damaging than a site which offers it for free? It's a simple question. So far people avoid answering it and say "stfu". I think the answer is that this site is no more damaging to artists than the alternatives, but somehow for some reason the fact that the people are making money off of it gives you all some kind of intangible anger and sense of revenge. You who probably are sitting in a chatroom in a P2P program downloading tracks as I type this. Heh. I wish someone would answer my question with a valid and relevant answer instead of avoiding it or insulting me. Or telling me that I "know" something. If I knew I wouldn't have asked, but saying that IS a good way of avoiding having to answer the question.

You're obviously not a producer...

How would you feel if someone stole your work and sold it, claimed it was legally obtained and didn't give you the share that's rightfully yours? They are selling stuff that is not theirs to sell. You've gotta be pretty damn ignorant (or just arguing for arguments sake, like you usually are) to claim it's not hurting anyone any more than any other file sharing site. It not only hurts the artists but it wrecks the credibility of legit file sharing services for good.

I know it's completely useless to even say these things to you since you won't accept anyone's views but your own but eh...

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Originally posted by Radagast 1. Illegal sites like these are spread by word of mouth. 2. There are many legal and illegal alternatives to this site. 3. The other alternative sites to this which have free MP3's and which are even more damaging than this site are not allowed to be posted, yet this one is stickied. Now how does people buying the tracks make this site any more damaging than a site which offers it for free? It's a simple question. So far people avoid answering it and say "stfu". I think the answer is that this site is no more damaging to artists than the alternatives, but somehow for some reason the fact that the people are making money off of it gives you all some kind of intangible anger and sense of revenge. You who probably are sitting in a chatroom in a P2P program downloading tracks as I type this. Heh. I wish someone would answer my question with a valid and relevant answer instead of avoiding it or insulting me. Or telling me that I "know" something. If I knew I wouldn't have asked, but saying that IS a good way of avoiding having to answer the question.

do us a favour, stick 2 screwdrivers up your nose and headbutt a table This matter affects many people here which is why it's stickied as the easiest way to take out wankers like this is by spreading word of it so producers can band together for action. You'd feel differently if it affected anything you'd ever done, then again nobody would pay for that stuff cos anything affiliated with you is not even worth the 2 cents that you try to bring. Quit being a troll and totally moving away from the point here as this seriously affects the people involved, many of whom are close friends of mine, but then again you probably don't even know what a 'friend' is you worthless sack of shit

You're being quite insensitive Radagast, and I suggest you stop posting your drivel and instead realise this simple fact: this thread is intended to make trancEaddict's community of amateur producers aware that a web site is selling their productions. These are tracks which the producers have shared in good faith as free downloads. JetGroove.com does not have the right to generate money from other people's work without permission.

That's what this thread is about. It is not a debate about trancEaddict's stance on file-sharing - that rule isn't open to debate. If you wish to discuss file-sharing, then I suggest you do it elsewhere.

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As I was scrolling down page one I just knew that either Radagast or Laushinameee would troll all over this thread & generally act like an attention-seeking waste of space; it had to be one of them.

Oh well, such is life.

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Originally posted by Radagast 1. Illegal sites like these are spread by word of mouth. 2. There are many legal and illegal alternatives to this site. 3. The other alternative sites to this which have free MP3's and which are even more damaging than this site are not allowed to be posted, yet this one is stickied. Now how does people buying the tracks make this site any more damaging than a site which offers it for free? It's a simple question. So far people avoid answering it and say "stfu". I think the answer is that this site is no more damaging to artists than the alternatives, but somehow for some reason the fact that the people are making money off of it gives you all some kind of intangible anger and sense of revenge. You who probably are sitting in a chatroom in a P2P program downloading tracks as I type this. Heh. I wish someone would answer my question with a valid and relevant answer instead of avoiding it or insulting me. Or telling me that I "know" something. If I knew I wouldn't have asked, but saying that IS a good way of avoiding having to answer the question.

It could be more damaging to an artist like Terry. If you read on those assholes FAQ's page you will see that it is the fact that they are SELLING the tracks and that the fact that they are SELLING tracks that they claim are LICENSED and that the artist is being COMPENSATED. I have no clue why it is so hard for you to understand, but in Terry's case those statements alone could get him SUED. A track that has samples from another artist's track that is copyrighted needs clearance first before it can be sold for profit. Just because Terry remixed a track for FUN does not mean that another company should be able to SELL UNRELEASED track's to the public for their own personal profit with the public under the impression that this track is an actual LICENSED RELEASE and that the artist is being COMPENSATED for that sale. Don't you think that if Terry didn't give a shit about his track that he would have already had an MP3 release by now and the person to do the release would have been him?

Are you following me now or do I need to spell it out to you some more?

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guys stop giving this twat the time of day. he's only posting cos you keep responding.

I agree. It's apparent that he could give a shit about the artists music that he DL's. Makes me wonder why he even bothered becoming a TA.

i just cannot comprehend the stupidity of the people behind that website.

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Originally posted by trancebrat I agree. It's apparent that he could give a shit about the artists music that he DL's. Makes me wonder why he even bothered becoming a TA.

I just don't think he could get his head around the fact that regardless of the fact it's offering illegal music, it was posted with intent of informing the artists and getting something done about it. Same would go had it been offering them for free; the thread itself is not promoting filesharing.

This is unbelievable, I don't understand it, because they have obviously put alot of tiem and effort into the site and the design etc.... but surely they must have known they would get caught and shut down!

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Originally posted by Radagast I'm just wondering why this illegal file sharing website is allowed to be displayed while one that will let me download the same tracks for free isn't.

Because this is blatantly a warning to labels and producers to contact their lawyers to stop this site, not to advertise the fact and do yet more abuse to the state of the industry

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