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DJ Rob Noli
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Brampton, Ontario

I'm finishing this thread.

The only problem here Mlee Hee is that your trying to tell us fact. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't start talking like you are the god of music...like you know everything and your opinion is the only one that matters. If you don't like the song, fine. Doesn't mean you have to flame the producer and get pissed at people who flame you (although the Irish Phucker remark was out of line).

There are ALOT of tunes that people think are "AMAZING" that I personally can't stand...but my opinion is my opinion, I don't go telling people what they should or shouldn't like. Alot of my friends listen to Hip hop, or Euro-Dance, which I think is mostly total crap, but I don't tell them they shouldn't like it.

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The thing is garbage and you people are just making your self like because it has the word Tiesto on it.


Really? And you know this for a fact? Uh-huh, thats right, I love everything with a big producer's name on it, thats why my second post on this board was a thread about how dissapointed I am in Ferry Corsten lately. Since Needlejuice and Dance Valley Theme were such great productions in my opinion (SARCASM). Dammit, I wish I could know everything about everyone, to know how and what they think about everything.

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For one thing if you truly love trance you wouldn't care who produces az track you like.


DAMN RIGHT! When I found out about Hibernate (http://www.mp3.com/hibernate) through MP3.com, I started telling people about them, because I loved their song Mane Sonitus...they are 2 independent guys from Toronto (REPRESENT) and I bought the Advent EP...AND GUESS WHAT...2 months after I buy the album, who plays "Mane Sonitus" on an ID&T Radio broadcast? Hmmmmmm maybe Armin Van Buuren, my favorite DJ/Producer? So what does that say? Does it say I have good taste in music or that I don't care who produces a track as long as it is quality? I think it says both. So tell me now who is brainwashed?

Your coming off like you know it all, and this is why your getting such offensive posts.


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Just because it doesn't sound like uplifting trance doesn't mean it's progressive for christs skae.


What does that have to do with anything...classify the track however you want, its still a good tune in my opinion.

AND, oddly enough, this track was based on Tiesto's remix of Coast 2 Coast - Home, which SUCKED in my opinion. Or it might have been vice versa, but anyways, he took alot of the samples from the remix and put together a quality tune, in my opinion.

I'm not trying to offend you, but merely point out why I think you got such nasty response and maybe to explain how your post could have not tried to tell people something but merely offered opinion, as there are no facts when one states opinion.

Peace.


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tu_face
No Known Cure...



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Pete


Whats a being a hardcore clubber go to do with liking flight 643 anyway...


u didnt really read my post did u? my point was those of us who go out nearly evry weekend prolly heard it miles before we knew it was a tiesto tune... thus disproving the sheep theory. ppl only started bein sheep when it was labeled with tiesto's name. i for one was goin mad to this in february.. not knowing the producer or the name of the tune


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Jukx
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Delft, Holland

*Sigh*

2 Reasons for people thinking this track is a piece of shit and should end in the toilet :

1. You have such a bad taste and you are afraid for every form of electronic music that isn't Uplifting Trance. "Hey, where are the happy melodies? It is so boring, uninspired and repetitve!" <-----PATHETIC!!! *puke*
C'mon, some people can be sooo narrow-minded!

2. You didn't hear this track in a club, coz if so it would certainly change your opinion.


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Miss Proximus
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Registered: Mar 2001
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/me raises hand...."can I say smth?"

I used to like flight 643, but I've heard it too many times now and it kinda gets boring


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E.Sv
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Yekaterinburg, Russia

It was a good experiment by Tiesto, but it is not garbage at all. I just can't explain it absolutely, but there is someting in this track

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MC Mlee Hee
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Donegal, Ireland

quote:
Originally posted by Jukx
*Sigh*

2 Reasons for people thinking this track is a piece of shit and should end in the toilet :

1. You have such a bad taste and you are afraid for every form of electronic music that isn't Uplifting Trance. "Hey, where are the happy melodies? It is so boring, uninspired and repetitve!" <-----PATHETIC!!! *puke*
C'mon, some people can be sooo narrow-minded!

2. You didn't hear this track in a club, coz if so it would certainly change your opinion.


Get your facts straight.

My favorite style is progressive and I do not care for most uplifting trance. This is why this piece of crap annoys me because it is NOT Porgressive and I'll say it again I have heard it in a club and it makes no difference no matter where you play it. A good progressive track is Junkie XL - Check Your Basic Groove (Sander Kleinenberg Mix).
And I know a lot about other styles of music behind trance so i think my opinion holds some value.

Waiting for more flames to come. And before you call me ignorant and immature I'm 26 years old.

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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK

quote:
Originally posted by MC Mlee Hee


Get your facts straight.

My favorite style is progressive and I do not care for most uplifting trance. This is why this piece of crap annoys me because it is NOT Porgressive and I'll say it again I have heard it in a club and it makes no difference no matter where you play it. A good progressive track is Junkie XL - Check Your Basic Groove (Sander Kleinenberg Mix).
And I know a lot about other styles of music behind trance so i think my opinion holds some value.

Waiting for more flames to come. And before you call me ignorant and immature I'm 26 years old.


can i just point out (without flaming) that you are the one being so hostile against anyone elses point of veiw... youve said ur veiw.. u dont like it... i do... so what.

And by the way.. im well into prog (thus my status being proGaddict) and i have been for a long enough amount of time for me to say that 643 has got some prog influences.. it isnt out & out prog.. no-one really sed that. i would call it tech/prog.

Another thing... of course it matters if u hear it in a club or not. in my veiw you simply cant get the full effect of the tune unless u live it in a suitable atmosphere.. thus club. for example... i hated the physical mix of joyenergizer at first... i heard it @ GC and bang, im hooked, because i can remember how that track pounded the bass thru my veins in the club, i can respect it out the club.

none of this is flaming. except this little bit because i am going to call u ignorant and immature. because u say ur own point of veiw, cant take on anyone elses, then spit flames when someone tries to say something different to what you said. so you may as well be 14 mate...

peace


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DJ Teknique
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Baltimore, USA

dood i like flight 643, just because u think its shit doesn't mean everyone else should...a choice of music is each persons opinion so don't think that just because it repeats all over again it sucks.


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bluE_Neon
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Warsaw

track is garbage and ive heard it a lot of times, just doens't fit proggressive...Tiesto isn't a progressive dj, therefore wats da point of creating a progressive track if u dont know how 2...just stick 2 ur style i dont wanna make ne quotes, B E C A U S E it's T I E S T O and TA is full of Tiesto freaks i see all of dis ppl defending him and shit...so wat? Tiesto is good, but not a GOD...i lot of ppl on dis thread say dat it's progressive, fuck i dont care, it will never be a proggie tune, and dats it


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Essential1
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Brampton

(This is DJ Rob Noli @ My buddy's house)

Lots of DJ's experiment around, its a healthy experience, they should not just stick to one style. Does this mean Tiesto shouldn't play CJ Bolland - The Prophet, because its not uplifting? NO way. A Good DJ Can blend a set and program it properly to make the trance compliment ech other.

Personally hearing this track in a club makes no difference to me, it sounds good in my headphones, in the car, and on the speakers.

Depends on your definition of progressive as well. Theres progressive trance and progressive house. Tarentella - Karma is progressive HOUSE to me. 5 Below 0 - Club Quake (Oliver Klein Remix) is progressive TRANCE. Really, too much emphasis is being spent on classifying the tune. Whatever you want to call it, I still like it.

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And before you call me ignorant and immature I'm 26 years old.


Dude, you could be 45 years old, telling people WHAT to think and telling them WHY they think something is being ignorant.

Peace.

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vkapartz
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Athens, Greece

quote:
Originally posted by djVersus


first of all, you should never get into dj'ing or music cuz you got deaf, ignorant ears. You don't know jack about trance music. One of the most important skills a dj should have is to destinguish unique, fresh tunes that shape the world of trance. Flight 643 is one of them and yet, you don't realize it.

One of the most original, unique trance tunes of all time hits you in the face and you don't see it.


OK, this is a me-too post but I have to say it: I couldn't agree with you more, m8

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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

Why does someone who doesn't like it "know jack about trance" that's just stupid. Tastes differ and that's a fact. What is there to know about trance that's important. Nothing. All that's important is whether you feel it or not.
On a sidenote, i love flight 643 and i don't give a rats ass whether it's trance, Rn B, Hiphop or Progressive... (i classify it as progressive tho )

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