I personally hope John McCain tries for another run to the White House in 2008

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Bush is a fucking idiot. vote kerry.

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Originally posted by kid nyce I'm pro-human life thats all...whether we suffer in poverty or succeed with happiness, the fact is we are alive. Remember there are people out there who have attacked our right to live, if we can't defend that and move to elect a leader focusing on quality of living then whats the point? Bush is preserving life by preventing attacks from happening. Kerry is focusing on quality of life, how can we attribute to quality of life if someone is out to take our lives from us.

if by preserving life you mean killing over 10,000 innocent iraqi's then he has done a wonderful job of doing just that. hrmm... people who attacked our right to live... last time i remember iraq didn't attack us, nor threaten us in any way (except maybe to limit the amount of oil exports), it was al qaeda.

my reasons to not vote bush:

our economy is in a SIGNIFICANTLY lower position than when he took office
he ruined our foreign relations
he created a whole mass of new enemies from the innocent lives that were lost in the current war
lied to us about so many issues (even continued lying in the debates)

there's so many more but i'm tired of listing them every time i try to argue against bush. just read up on the facts and learn more people

fact: we were at a surplus before bush came into power after the clinton administration.

fact: after bush stepped into office, he put us in more debt than all the past presidents in history............. COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by kid nyce As moronic as it sounds - Bush lols My reasoning? Terrorist has successfully threaten smaller countries with execution of captives from their native countries and have had these countries remove their soldiers from the war. This is a victory for them. If the people of America, choose to remove Bush from office, in a smaller sense, isn't that a victory to terrorist? They've successful persuaded the American People to elect a different President. I am not pro-war as I have a few good West Point Graduate friends currently occupying Iraq and Fallujah. I am aware of the Bush's stand point on America and the economy. I know Kerry poses the IDEAL CANDIDATE for America, but don't you think that will be the cause of another attack on our soil? Another test of the new presidents balls? Another reason for them to bring the war onto our homeland? I think our Economy and Rights will naturally heal itself. I believe that an attack on the USA by terrorist would detrimentally hurt the economy and the rights we all have anyways. I'd let Bush occupy the office with the comfort of knowing that to the least degree he has already acted on it. If Kerry comes into office he might stablize the economy more and contribute to our homeland issues, but to me, that will never mean more then a human life. Together as a society we have to understand that, these homeland issues (abortion, human rights, economy...etc) they are cyclical. There will be solutions, help, rights granted, all of that. But in the time that we live right now, we face war. It's not on our soil but we live amongst it. Rock the Vote please and be wise and keen to what is happening now as it will affect the future. I've lost a few people on 9/11, I don't need to worry about losing more. RIP 9/11.

this aint a discussion thread HO!

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Originally posted by RaVeRSurGe fact: we were at a surplus before bush came into power after the clinton administration. fact: after bush stepped into office, he put us in more debt than all the past presidents in history............. COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not exactly true. The economy was already starting to slump at the end of Clinton's time. Although Bush did little to help it, I suppose he had what he thought were more pertinent issues to worry about, like national security.

And our humongous national debt isn't as scary as many claim it is. The number may be huge, but the majority of the nat'l debt is in the form of bonds that people buy from the gov't (thereby giving the gov't money) and then redeem years later (thereby taking their money back + interest). When the gov't has to pay you back your bond amount, what does it do? It sells another bond to another person to get the money to pay you back, therby continuing the cycle. As long as people keep buying bonds (and there's no reason they would stop), the cycle continues and our debt number grows, but there's no real danger. See what I mean?

But yea, you're right about one thing: Bush needs to go.

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Originally posted by RaVeRSurGe Bush is a fucking idiot. vote kerry.

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Shouldn't the leader of our country be able to form articulate sentences. Is that too much to ask?

Bush doesn't lie?

Whatever company/country Dubya runs turns to shit.

And I'm sick of him mixing religion and politics.

I'm sick of him embarrassing the U.S.

He needs a big boot!

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Originally posted by Member of X +1 Shouldn't the leader of our country be able to form articulate sentences. Is that too much to ask? And I'm sick of him mixing religion and politics. I'm sick of him embarrassing the U.S.

i agree with you on all that. bush is an idiot, and has totally alienated the rest of the world from the US; his foreign policy sucks. and what about health care? not once have i heard bush come up with a plan to better the health care system. all he talks about are weapons of mass destruction. all his efforts are focused on one thing, well what about everything else? i dont get it.

my vote is kerry, i dont think i can take another 4 years of bush, he has done nothing for the middle class (except take the young ones and put them in a war), and i dont make enough money to support bush....

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BUSH is the greatest P R I C K in the history of the E E U U,

Vote 4 TIESTO

First law change; MDMA legal
2nd; all rapers throw in jail

the only reason i can think of to vote for bush if if you're making over 200 grand a year which i doubt many here are, but besides that even if you were there are other things more important in my book, like safety.

I CAN'T SEE HOW BUSH CAMPAIGNS ON A PLATFORM OF NATIONAL SECURITY WHEN THE TERRORIST ATTACK 9/11 WAS ENTIRELY HIS FAULT, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS, THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ATTACKED SINCE 1812 ON OUR SOIL AND OUR PRESIDENT POINTS FINGERS......BE A MAN BUSH, STOP TRYING TO COVER IT UP, YOU FUCKED UP. BE A MAN.

HE HASN'T DONE ONE POSTIVE THING FOR US, ALL HE'S DONE OS FUCK UP, AND YES HE CAN'T EVEN TALK RIGHT.

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Originally posted by Miss Bliss Not exactly true. The economy was already starting to slump at the end of Clinton's time. Although Bush did little to help it, I suppose he had what he thought were more pertinent issues to worry about, like national security. And our humongous national debt isn't as scary as many claim it is. The number may be huge, but the majority of the nat'l debt is in the form of bonds that people buy from the gov't (thereby giving the gov't money) and then redeem years later (thereby taking their money back + interest). When the gov't has to pay you back your bond amount, what does it do? It sells another bond to another person to get the money to pay you back, therby continuing the cycle. As long as people keep buying bonds (and there's no reason they would stop), the cycle continues and our debt number grows, but there's no real danger. See what I mean? But yea, you're right about one thing: Bush needs to go.

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YEAH SERGE!