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Originally posted by sym No probably not, but would Kerry have made the decision to bust into Iraq in the first place is a more appropriate question.

he did

look, lets not argue about a mess in Iraq. Osama hasn't brought it up why should we.

in the context of Osama Bin Laden, Kerry is as much of a zionist crusader as any other president or wannabe president. the question is, can changing the will of a hundred thousand terrorist through bringing something as simple as freedom to a billion Muslems worth the squeeze?

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Originally posted by sym No probably not, but would Kerry have made the decision to bust into Iraq in the first place is a more appropriate question.

I think what Kerry would have probably done would have been to surround Iraq with military forces and threaten Saddam with force to get inspectors back in.

Saddam at that point may or may not have let them back in, but he did let them in after Bush did something similar correct?

If the inspectors had more time to search with the barrel of a gun down Saddam's neck, we'd have found out Saddam no longer had WMDs.


If Saddam refused, I think Kerry would have tried to get together a real coalition (like HW Bush did in Gulf War 1) with enough troops to go in and secure the peace.


This is all speculation on my part though.

It's obvious now though that invading Iraq in the way the US did - with too few troops and no real rationale - was a huge mistake.

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What next ?

suddenly they will announce that Bin Laden has been captured and killed ? and Bush will be re-elected

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Osama bin Laden has appeared in a new videotape accepting responsibility for September 11 and providing the 'October surprise' needed for his business partner, George W. Bush, to gain re-election. For over two years we have been highlighting the potential staged capture of bin Laden right before the election that the Neo-Cons would use as their trump card for four more years of empire abroad and police state at home. Alex Jones has privately and publicly interviewed many CIA and intelligence agents who told him directly that bin Laden died of kidney failure shortly after 9/11. We were careful in considering that this could be disinformation but public awareness of this plan and other high-level officials reiterating the same possibility caused the Globalists to back off a full-scale capture for the time-being, but this new video provides them with all the justification needed to fulfil the same agenda. Anyone who cannot see the sheer audacity of this development, its staging and timing, is blind. This is an incredibly transparent stunt. Recall the Cornell University study which confirmed that whenever a terror alert or a terror threat is issued, Bush's approval ratings show a significant jump.

Always good to have atleast one "conspiracy nut" view around

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p.s. : the ben laden speech posted here is real , i speak arabic and it's exactly what he said on the vid.

and just like some of you , i'm impressed how he's able to hold a speech unlike "double you".

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I think the speech speaks something deeper then that, involving Bush and he's dishonesty with the American people.. and Bin Laden is trying to highlight that.. IM sure there's some deeper crap into this.

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Originally posted by LiquidX I think the speech speaks something deeper then that, involving Bush and he's dishonesty with the American people.. and Bin Laden is trying to highlight that.. IM sure there's some deeper crap into this.

yeah i got that feeling to, go conspiracies

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Originally posted by Q5echo i'm not going to admit this. i was hoping you wouldn't either

Well I did. You should know that doesn't make the smallest of differences.

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Originally posted by fastmp3 p.s. : the ben laden speech posted here is real , i speak arabic and it's exactly what he said on the vid. and just like some of you , i'm impressed how he's able to hold a speech unlike "double you".

See? A soccer fanatic has spoken. People like him are never wrong.

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Rita Cosby: To reveal more info in OBL tape
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Posted on 10/30/2004 2:59:27 PM PDT by TexKat


Coming up on Rita Cosby's Big Story Weekend at 9 p.m.ET. more info of what was contained in OBL video tape. Info that refers to Bush 41, GWB's brother, Halliburton, oil is the reason we are in Iraq, real concern for this coming Monday and Tuesday.
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i believe it. we'll see though.

they should be releasing the whole tape. 18 minutes to the American people and we dont get to see it? Osama bin Laden is a civilian murderering scumbag, but if he's got a message for the american people we should be allowed to hear it. It's up to us whether or not to believe anything he says.

Ok, now this is getting really interesting.

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Doea anyone have a link to a credible translation of any part of the speech?

I listened to an english translation of part of his speech, and he sounded pretty reasonable in his analysis. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange Doea anyone have a link to a credible translation of any part of the speech? I listened to an english translation of part of his speech, and he sounded pretty reasonable in his analysis. Thanks.

I bet the people who have the video are still editing.

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Originally posted by NiteKiD -------------------------------------------------- Rita Cosby: To reveal more info in OBL tape Fox News | 10/30/04 Posted on 10/30/2004 2:59:27 PM PDT by TexKat Coming up on Rita Cosby's Big Story Weekend at 9 p.m.ET. more info of what was contained in OBL video tape. Info that refers to Bush 41, GWB's brother, Halliburton, oil is the reason we are in Iraq, real concern for this coming Monday and Tuesday. ---------------------------------------------------- taken from the free republic forums. i believe it. we'll see though. they should be releasing the whole tape. 18 minutes to the American people and we dont get to see it? Osama bin Laden is a civilian murderering scumbag, but if he's got a message for the american people we should be allowed to hear it. It's up to us whether or not to believe anything he says.

So we're not getting the whole story from any news network? I wonder whose choice that was... In my opinion it's amazing we're still getting tapes from this guy yrs after 9/11. Wherever he is it seems like he's comfortable to sit at a table, make a long calm speech and then have the thing delivered by messenger to this Al-jizzera(sp) in a country that's supposed to be our major ally in the War on Terror. And the topics! Our security, making fun of Bush, Florida's election problems... What'll he cover in the next tape? My local weather forecast?

This might be a "liberal" question but if we're in a real War on Terror with so many troops deployed, why isn't this guy dead yet?

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