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CosmoKid
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quote:
Originally posted by Laushinameee
PvD has always had the techno element... thats what he started off playing, techno alongside a few more 'trancey' things. There were only a few people making the trancey things then, so it was majority techno. Listen to some of his 93/94 sets - sure for the time it was 'trancey', but its really far away from todays pansy armin style trance music.

I dont understand why people are thinking hes got more 'techy' in the past year, if im honest id say the opposite was true. He used to play far less epic 'trance' and a lot more things with an edge.



i can only go back to '97 for a decent tracklist...

[1997]


Fantazia 1997
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01. Way Out West - Earth
02. Tomski - 14 Hours To Save The Earth
03. Way Out West - Domination
04. Curve - Chinese Burn (Forbidden City Mix)
05. Melonhaus - Asset Stripper
06. ID - 'Imagine the future'
07. Rodd-Y-Ler - Lifesigns (Original Mix)
08. Telescreen - All Engines
09. BBG - Just Be Tonight
10. Bliss - Corncircle
11. Binary Finary - 1998
12. Jens Lissat - You Can't Escape (Paul van Dyk Remix)
13. ID
14. ID
15. ID

techy? i dont know every song on this tracklist, but the bunch i do i wouldnt call techy.


Club Of Colours Hungary (11-08-1999)
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01. Starfighter - Apache (B1 Mix)
02. Timo Mass - Der Schieber
03. Bedrock - Heaven Scent (Original Mix)
04. DJ Rap - Good To Be Alive (Johnny Vicious' Epic Vocal Mix)
05. Brainchild - Symmetry C (Mike Koglin Remix)
06. Airscape - L'Esperanza (040 Remix)
07. Vincent De Moor - Shamu (Mac Zimms Remix)
08. Mothers Pride - Learning To Fly (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix)
09. Blank & Jones - Cream (Paul van Dyk Remix)
10. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (E-Werk Club Mix)
11. Apollo 440 - Stop The Rock (Gigolo Instrumental)
12. Oudja - Never Tell What You Think (Pulsedriver Remix)
13. Mario Piu - Unicorn ('99 Mix)
14. Final One - I Need Your Lovin'
15. Mike Koglin - On My Way (Extented Vocal Mix)
16. Freefall - Skydive (HiFi Bugs Remix)
17. Paul van Dyk - Together We Will Conquer
18. Atlantis ITA - See You In The Next Life
19. Argonauts - Fruhlingstag (Dave Ralph & Mike Koglin Mix)
20. Condor - Sky
21. Nylon - If You Love Me
22. Chicane - Saltwater (Tomski Vs. Disco Citizens Remix)
23. Atlantis vs. Avatar - Fiji (Original Mix)
24. Des Mitchell - Welcome To The Dance (Part 2)
25. Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (En Motion Mix)
26. Ernst & Ben - Outpost
27. DJ Tandu - Velvet
28. Prototype - Soundpiercing (Omni Mix)
29. Slick Mick - Middle
30. Southside Spinners - Luvstruck
31. 2 Digital - Take My Soul
32. Ron Hagen & Pascale M - Song Of The Siren
33. Vincent De Moor - Shamu (Mac Zimms Remix)
34. Paul van Dyk - Another Way (Club Mix)
35. Starfighter - Apache (B1 Mix)
36. Binary Finary - 1998 (Paul van Dyk Remix)
37. Starfighter - Apache (B1 Mix)

^
^
^
mmmmm




Amnesia Ibiza (16-08-2002)

Part 1
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01. Insigma - Open Your Eyes (Insigma Mix)
02. Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Paul's 'Original' Mix)
03. Hi Tech - Let There Be Light (JS16 Remix)
04. Murphy Brown & NuNRG - Aloa-P (Mr. Pink Remix)
05. The Bass Tarts - Summer In Space
06. Klea - Tic Toc (Magik Muzik remix) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
07. 040 feat. Erica Baxter - Dreams (Lost Witness Dub)
08. Nu-NRG - Supersonik Way (Paul van Dyk Edit)
09. Marco V - Atlanta 020202
10. Atrium - Golden (J'ubio Remix)
11. Three Drives - Carrera 2 (Original Mix)
12. Armin van Buuren - Sunburn
13. Oceanforce - Euphoric Dream (Oceanforce Mix)
14. Nu-NRG - Butterfly
15. Ghostland feat. Sinead O'Connor - Guide Me God (Paul van Dyk Remix)
16. Solid Sleep - Club Attack (TPOD Mix by Paul van Dyk)
17. Connector - Interference (Paul van Dyk Rework)
18. Blank & Jones - Secrets & Lies (Paul van Dyk rework)
19. Paul van Dyk - Another Way (Club Mix)
20. Noemi - Y.O.U. (Mezziah Mix) (Paul van Dyk Edit)
21. Sun Decade - I'm Alone (Ronski Speed Mix)
22. Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Paul's 'Original' Mix)
23. Marco V - I Feel You (Paul van Dyk Remix)
24. Angelic Touchdown - Marinero (Nu-NRG Extended Mix)


Part 2
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25. Rapid Eye - Circa-Forever (Rapid Eye Remix)
26. Sensation - The Anthem 2002 (Original Mix)
27. Nitromethane - Time To Die (Seraque Remix)
28. Nu-NRG - Take Your Air 2002 (Nu-NRG Extended Mix)
29. Armin Pres. Gaia - 4 Elements (Original Extended Mix)
30. Aquanuts - Deep Sea (Martin Eyerer Remix)
31. DJ Scot Project - U (I Got A Feeling)
32. Ruff Drivers Pres. Arrolla - Dreaming (Percussion Mix)
33. Big Bass vs Michelle Narine - What you Do (Instrumental)
34. CRW feat. Veronika - Precious Life (Instrumental Dub)
35. Paul van Dyk - Working
36. Des Mitchell - Welcome To The Dance (Part 2)
37. Reeloop - Fucking Society (Instrumental)
38. Fischerspooner - Emerge (Paul van Dyk Remix)
39. Underworld - Born Slippy (Paul van Dyk Rework)
40. Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Paul's 'Original' Mix)

^
^
^
still got me



Seriousworld (30-05-2004)
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01. Marcos - Red Bullet (Muzikman Mix) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
02. Katana - In Silence (Txitarro Remix)
03. Paul van Dyk - Wir Sind Wir (Paul van Dyk Club Mix)
04. Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream
05. Sandra Flynn - Brightness
06. ID
07. G&M Project - Sunday Afternoon (Original Mix)
08. Jaron Inc - Overflow
09. Corderoy - Sweetest Dreams (Ferry Corsten Remix) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
10. The Mystery - Fever
11. ID
12. DJ Cyglas - Roots Of Evil (Techno-Punk Remix) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
13. 4 Strings - Summersun (DJ 4 Strings Mix)
14. Airspace - Sosei (F&W Remix) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
15. Danny C - The Twist (Ghost Mix)
16. Dick Van Nille - Outside
17. Rank 1 - Down From The Deep
18. Paul van Dyk - Wir Sind Wir (Paul van Dyk Club Mix)
19. Cosmic Gate - Bilingual
20. Mojado feat. Mr Sam - Naranja (Dimitri Andreas Vision)
21. Love Fist - Hanging On A String (E-Craig Mix)
22. Nick Lunn & YOMC Pres. Tecno-Punx - Energize (Paul van Dyk Edit)
23. ID


other then a few tracks...losing me


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Disco_Gibson
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wot is the point in showing his old tracklists against the newer ones?

obviously every dj progresses in tastes over time.for van dyk he got tougher.for oakenfold he got proggier.for tiesto he got shittier

less of the van dyk hating.hes done alot for the scene.show some respect

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Laushinameee
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well i did say look at 93/94 tracklist, pasting up something from 99 is a bit different but look at his set in 99, its 90% pretty shit trance. There were a lot of people close to him that didnt like the way he was going in 99, and hes lost a lot of friends because of the direction he took in those years... that 99 tracklist youve just given me is an example of PvD at his very worst.

but compare it to the 97 playlist anyway, the 97 one has a lot more of a techno element, his remix of you cant escape & chinese burn are both really dark & quite acid tracks...

looking at a handful of playlists really doesnt mean anything, but im sure you can see that hes definately not got 'more techy' in recent years. Id say the opposite was true. If you dont know the tracks from 97 and before, then dont make the claim.


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scAza
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i think a lot of people r forgettin MUSIC changes and progresses over time, not just the DJ's taste in music!

over the last year or two iv enoticed him spinning a lot of techier stuff too but i LVOE it!

my tastes seem to have changed with him! dont get me wrong i love AVB etc too, they wouldnt touch a lot of stuff PVD plays, but id rather i prefer bangin techno to th latest filo & peri / markus schulz etc any day!

he fux up every now and then but people r bein WAY ot harsh! its easier mixing prog than fast paced music like PVD plays, so its no wonder Markus etc do it with less obvious fuck ups is it?!


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CosmoKid
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i dont think i am PVD hating by any means. i was simply commenting on dave's original post.

i was trying to give some tracklists over the years, unsuccessfully illustrating my point

one thing i figured out is that it seems mostly everyone agrees with his style changes. some like it, some dont.

i guess i liked the fluffier PVD, even though i still thought he banged it in 2000. i guess its all relative.


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NiteMer
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Laushinameee
well i did say look at 93/94 tracklist, pasting up something from 99 is a bit different but look at his set in 99, its 90% pretty shit trance. There were a lot of people close to him that didnt like the way he was going in 99, and hes lost a lot of friends because of the direction he took in those years... that 99 tracklist youve just given me is an example of PvD at his very worst.

but compare it to the 97 playlist anyway, the 97 one has a lot more of a techno element, his remix of you cant escape & chinese burn are both really dark & quite acid tracks...

looking at a handful of playlists really doesnt mean anything, but im sure you can see that hes definately not got 'more techy' in recent years. Id say the opposite was true. If you dont know the tracks from 97 and before, then dont make the claim.


I think it was the forbidden city mix of Chinese Burn, unless that's a mislabel. His version is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned his old stuff on Vorspung D T being more acidy and techy.

And for the guy that said prog is easier to mix, that depends. Some prog is and some isn't. Tempo doesn't mean shit. It's track interaction that can be tougher playing trance. But if the dj is playing trance and waiting until the end of the track to mix, it's not difficult at all. It's under and overlapping well that is tough with trance, but I have been playing a lot of ethereal or melodic progressive that is equally difficult. Sometimes it's even harder, because the basslines vary more and are more prominent fixtures in the song. So you can't really generalize like that. If your reasoning was true, D n B would be the hardest genre to mix, but that's not really the case.

Edit - Also, I went to see Markus for the first time recently. The latter part of his set was uptempo trance, aka Rank One - Breathing (airwave) Breaks mix, etc. He did fine on those mixes too.


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Radagast
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quote:
Originally posted by Laushinameee
well i did say look at 93/94 tracklist


Paul Van Dyk - X-Mix 1: The MFS Trip (1993)
0. Alien Nation - Intro
1. Gemini 6 - Skysoaring
2. True Love - Breath Of Stars
3. Effective Force - Diamond Bullet
4. Cosmic Baby - Cosmikk Trigger I
5. Cosmic Baby - Oh Supergirl
6. Microglobe - High On Hope
7. Voov - Strobe Light
8. Futurhythm - Transmanic
9. Cosmic Baby - The Space Track
10. Humate - Love Stimulation
11. Cosmic Baby - Heaven's Tears
12. Visions Of Shiva, The - How Much Can You Take?
13. Cosmic Baby - Sweet Dreams For Kaa
14. Loopzone - Natural High
15. Visions Of Shiva, The - Perfect Night

Ta da.


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quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Paul Van Dyk - X-Mix 1: The MFS Trip (1993)
0. Alien Nation - Intro
1. Gemini 6 - Skysoaring
2. True Love - Breath Of Stars
3. Effective Force - Diamond Bullet
4. Cosmic Baby - Cosmikk Trigger I
5. Cosmic Baby - Oh Supergirl
6. Microglobe - High On Hope
7. Voov - Strobe Light
8. Futurhythm - Transmanic
9. Cosmic Baby - The Space Track
10. Humate - Love Stimulation
11. Cosmic Baby - Heaven's Tears
12. Visions Of Shiva, The - How Much Can You Take?
13. Cosmic Baby - Sweet Dreams For Kaa
14. Loopzone - Natural High
15. Visions Of Shiva, The - Perfect Night

Ta da.


great cd such a shame that MFS went down the shitter....

this playlist proves my point, its TRANCE, but not as most people know it.


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Uh huh. And for something with less MFS-ness...



Paul Van Dyk - Live at HR XXL Club Night Classix
1993-02-27

01. Paradise 3001 - Beautification
02. Moka DJ - Republic of Moka
03. Phuture - Inside Out
04. N. Ferini - Solution EPP Vol. 1
05. Ege Bam Yasi - Bubble
06. Simple Symphonies - Fluxland
07. Humate - Love Stimulation
08. Interactive - Koma
09. V.F.R. - Trance Illusion
10. Terragon - Party
11. Matto Grosso - Jungle
12. L.M.N.O. - X
13. X-Buzz - Beyond the Hill
14. Arpeggiators - X-plain The Un-x-plained
15. The Trip - LSD Liquid Club
16. Store - Don't Resist The Beat
17. Makowski - In The Sky
18. La Camorra - Te Quiero
19. Finitribe - 101.93
20. Effective Force - Illuminate the Planet
21. JYNX - Pure Elation
22. Dub Commission - Lost In House
23. Migangos - Feel The Music
24. House Junkie - Skylab
25. T.F.B. - Over The Edge
26. Atahualpa - In Nomine Patris
27. 10th Chapter - Product
28. Urban Hype - Living In A Fantasy
29. Glam - Hell's Party
30. Crunch - 50c
31. D.O.P. - Oh Yeah
32. Face the Bass - Time Time
33. Trance Wave One - Techno European League
34. Force Mass Motion - Sub Sonix

Hmm...


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quote:
Originally posted by Laushinameee
great cd such a shame that MFS went down the shitter....


lol, i heard Mark Reader is a manager for Burger King now

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Regardless of what he plays, he always ownes the crowd at the end. That's why he is one of the best.

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Laushinameee
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quote:
Originally posted by BrownTA4Life
lol, i heard Mark Reader is a manager for Burger King now


no, hes still head of MFS


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