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interesting opinion, people

do you think there will be more trance with breakz?

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Personally i think we are all way 2 critical of the current state of Trance. There are fantastic productions cumin out all the time. I luv the "it all sounds the same" crap. Eh doesnt Techno get a bit tedious after a while?

The new producers such as John O'Callaghan are showing the way forward for the melodic side. Guys like Marcel Woods are pushing the boundries with the harder techier stuff.

Yeh the likes of Judge Jules etc do spoil the scene sumwhat with their procession of playing terrible cheesy tunes. But they are only cheesy if u actually pay attention 2 it. I no nites in Glasgow that are goin back 2 basics and makin trance underground and edgy again. I went 2 the Tiesto Concert and i dont no what every1 else saw on the Saturday but i was luvin it.

Point is if i can still go in2 a club and hear quality music with a good crowd ill b luvin it in2 my 30's. Ive been "reaching for the lasers" for 6 years and im more crazy bout the scene than i ever have been

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quote:
Originally posted by gizzymcg
Personally i think we are all way 2 critical of the current state of Trance. There are fantastic productions cumin out all the time. I luv the "it all sounds the same" crap. Eh doesnt Techno get a bit tedious after a while?

The new producers such as John O'Callaghan are showing the way forward for the melodic side. Guys like Marcel Woods are pushing the boundries with the harder techier stuff.

Yeh the likes of Judge Jules etc do spoil the scene sumwhat with their procession of playing terrible cheesy tunes. But they are only cheesy if u actually pay attention 2 it. I no nites in Glasgow that are goin back 2 basics and makin trance underground and edgy again. I went 2 the Tiesto Concert and i dont no what every1 else saw on the Saturday but i was luvin it.

Point is if i can still go in2 a club and hear quality music with a good crowd ill b luvin it in2 my 30's. Ive been "reaching for the lasers" for 6 years and im more crazy bout the scene than i ever have been


Very good point.....


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i think trance needs to ditch some of its boundaries. it needs to work on the beats and include more interesting combinations. it needs to push the frontier on 'acceptable' synths (a lot of them DO sound the same as a synth used in about 876542 other trance tracks in the past). it needs to ditch the formulaic structure and use its imagination a bit more.

then, and only then will i find trance as interesting as i used to, but for the time being, there isn't much in the way of innovation going on....

unfortunatly, if trance did all those things i listed, it would be classified as psy, prog, or techno.

trance is fucked.


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Originally posted by Ste
theres plenty of good decent and different trance out there (althugh not as muc has i would like). people are just too stuck on their prog and anthems to care about it.

this is true.. instead of bitching about whats 'wrong' take that time to explore, dig deeper...


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I really much agree with you. Trance could have a future If there was more experimentation with the core, not with the breakdown


Kind of how it was pre '97-98 then, when the big breakdowns were the exceptions to the rule. Much more experimentation going on regarding the structure of the track. Even though it stagnated soundwise towards the end and then got to be replaced by the big euphoric uber-breakdowns that never went away.


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not really. their is a big psy scene in the UK full of great parteis, it seems one of the last places where peopel arnt stuck o nthe plastic image of a super star DJ playing "big" tunes. u'll usually find theres a lot more than psy their too, plenty of other decent trance hybrids.


Well if you see, the only big psy trance party in the uk is astrofenix @ SE1. The rest are free parties, or parties at small venues, etc. In places like Mexico and India there is a fuck load of money involved, the scene is huge and groups like infected mushroom are bigger than PVD or Tiesto are in Europe. Also the genere has not evolved in the past 10 years the sound is exactly the same.


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Well if you see, the only big psy trance party in the uk is astrofenix @ SE1. The rest are free parties, or parties at small venues, etc. In places like Mexico and India there is a fuck load of money involved, the scene is huge and groups like infected mushroom are bigger than PVD or Tiesto are in Europe. Also the genere has not evolved in the past 10 years the sound is exactly the same.



yeh but theyre like festivals, like the antiworld parties etc. theres still plenty of decent sized nights with psy involvement...

edit: but id agree there isnt the money invovled in the uk. which is good in a way, coz it stays about the music and not making big bucks.


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Originally posted by tu_face
.... it needs to push the frontier on 'acceptable' synths (a lot of them DO sound the same as a synth used in about 876542 other trance tracks in the past)...
trance is fucked.


this is what pisses me off the most when it comes to trance music

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this is what pisses me off the most when it comes to trance music

but its true... same synth or not, producers need to work on their melody which is the main element of trance... alot of it coming out have mediocre to weak melodies..


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but its true... same synth or not, producers need to work on their melody which is the main element of trance... alot of it coming out have mediocre to weak melodies..


true, the melody IS the main element of a trance track, but people forget about being creative with the synth too. both things are required IMO.


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