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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

the NBA is the one kicking ass and taking names

Artest done for the 2004-05 season
Jackson = 30 games
O'Neil = 25 games
Wallace 6 games

+ fines

What I don't get is why the Detroit org was not fined for the fracas, same with the Pacers

I think Artest got what he deserved and then him and his two swinging buddies will be criminally charged and sued. It shows what happens, when tempers flare and how the NBA does not take crap. There goes the Pacers' hopes in 2004-05

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Omegasox
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Pennsylvania

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
but here's the thing .. we said the same thing about rasheed wallace and his dumba*s technical fouls years ago when he was with portland. but the BIG difference between artest and wallace is that artest is actually leading the team in points in some games, while o'neal leads in other games..

wallace never set himself as the primary man in portland.. as much as we hate artest (i hate the guy too) .. just let him play .. but whatever wallace did to be who he is right now, i hope artest gets the same psychological treatment .. because all of a sudden, rasheed is a good angel boy who is not getting into any trouble...

now what if rasheed wallace was still his "bad" boy stuff right now ? .. he could have whooped artest on the court i say .. hahahaha .. i was shocked that rasheed did not do anything.. the way he explodes..


Wallace can't even compare to Artest. Artest is simply a ticking time bomb, period. And who cares how good they are? If Michael Jordan did the same thing, I'd want the same consequences for him, it's just assinine to jump into the stands. I agree with the help that Wallace received should be given to Artest, because Wallace has done a complete 180. I honestly hope Artest never plays again and just pursues his "rap career" because he's a joke and has proven his agenda rests outside the game.

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verndogs
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Sports Discussion Forum - NYC

artest out for the season
stephen jackson out 30 games
jermaine o'neal out 25 games
wallace out 6 games

lessoned learned here:

don't ever trust any news from anything owned/operated by fox


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Shamez214
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Basin City

i wish the baseball players union didnt protect it's players as much as they do. frankie rodriguez should've gotten banned for the entire 2005 season for throwing a chair at a fan... what did he get again? 10 games? i hate stuff like that in baseball...


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verndogs
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Registered: Jan 2004
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don't worry pacers fans...

union will file a grievance and the suspensions will most likely come down..the NBA had to send a message to all their players


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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

6 games for Wallace is pure bullshit... he should have gotten a whole hell of a lot more.

In fact, I think all 4 players should have been given the same suspension. Artest got hosed.


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deibero
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Boston

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6 games for Wallace is pure bullshit... he should have gotten a whole hell of a lot more.


wallace started a regular nba fight which generally gets around that amount of games of suspension...
what took the situation out of control was artest, jackson and o'neal jumping into the stands...wallace had nothing to do with the second part of the brawl therefore i think he got what he deserved...
i do think the other ones were over punished...


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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

quote:
Originally posted by deibero
wallace started a regular nba fight which generally gets around that amount of games of suspension...
what took the situation out of control was artest, jackson and o'neal jumping into the stands...wallace had nothing to do with the second part of the brawl therefore i think he got what he deserved...
i do think the other ones were over punished...


Watch the video... Wallace threw a towel or shirt at Artest, and that's what preciptated the fan's throwing of the cup.


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deibero
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Registered: Feb 2003
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i see your point, but he wasnt in the stands fighting...
its better to throw a towel than to throw another punch!


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PhloTron
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Registered: Jun 2002
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Funny shit...totally uncalled for and the players must restrain themselves from entering the stands...no matter how retarded the fans are. It is funny to note how wussy the fans got after they threw their beverages then ran away like the little sissies they are.

Alas...I think the suspensions are just...though like in most cases there may be an adjustment made on the numbers after the unions grieve it...but it will still = a lot of games and $$$.

The city should punish not only the players but EVERY fan that they can identify from video that had involvement (outside of restraining) in the situation...i.e. threw their beer or punches.

I also belive that the NBA should have "fined" the Pistons organization by not allowing any fans for the next 5 or so home games (similar to that european soccer team that had to play 3 games in an empty stadium)...or at minimum....closing the first 20 rows of seats of the arena for that period of time....just to say "hey, we don't put up with dipshit fans"

anyway...funny stuff...as stern put it "the actions of the players/fans is a mirror of our current society"

Brilliant!


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Viber
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Registered: Jun 2003
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Jackson and Artest should have gotten the same suspension time.
BTW:did anyone notice that Rasheed Wallace was not involved?...weird...

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itsTrueSonic
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a just punishment for all the players .. yeah ben wallace had 6 games, but it was just for "the shove + the towel throw" .. that's worth six games ..

artest's punishment, although some may seem unfair, is just to me.. the extent of his outrage to the fan matches the same outrage spreewell had on p.j. carlisimo almost ten years ago .. who remembers that ?? the choking incident ..

but instead of comparisons of artest to rasheed wallace, let's turn the page a little further behind, and compare artest to dennis rodman .. that man is a complete joke.. the only thing he knew how to do was rebound, which in my case was one of the best all-time ... he knew where to box-out the player .. where to stand .. when to jump .. he timed everything perfectly .. his number of suspensions and outrages matches the same as artest's suspensions and outrages ..

however, has dennis rodman ever been suspended for a full season with his antics?? how long did he get when he kicked the cameraman in the groin? he was psychotic and a bully, and his basketball career should have ended sooner than it should have .. at least artest has some talent to back himself up ..

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