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| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
No. We have some definitions muddied, which is why you don't see what I'm saying, and in fact probably think it's self-contradictory and stupid:
Cheese (Copied from the Darude poll)
Material produced explicitly for radio play, explicitly for money, and explicitly without seriousness on the part of the producer.
Quality
Fresh, significant, innovative, superior, or otherwise deserving of merit. |
And how do you determine whether a track is material produced explicitly for radio play, explicitly for money, and explicitly without seriousness on the part of the producer? Is there any real difference between "eurotrance" and Anthem Trance besides what you percieve to be the intentions of the producers or the amount of popularity one happened to gain over the other? I have a problem with the differentiation between Anthem Trance and this "eurotrance".
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For reference, I provide a definition of eurotrance here
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| quote: | | a) Always has vocals, almost exclusively female ones. |
Vocals. I understand that. But Vocals are not exclusive to "eurotrance". Many kinds of music have vocals, including Anthem Trance.
| quote: | | b) Almost always has no lyrical meaning or depth. Eurotrance songs are endless purmutations of teenage poetry, and freqeuntly contain the words "angel," "love," "sweet," "heaven," "baby," etc. |
Not exclusive to "eurotrance".
| quote: | | c) Are produced almost exclusively with radio play in mind, for the purpose of making money. Very seldom will a eurotrance artist express any serious artistic motivation. |
How is this determined?
| quote: | | d) Often incorporate an off-beat kick, to sound more housey and "bounce around," but still contain the builds, rolls, and supersaws of epic trance. |
That's a good definition of Eurodance, which is House...
| quote: | | e) Perhaps most importantly, never pretends to have any serious intent or meaning behind itself. Eurotrance artists know they are making insipid party music. That's exactly what they're trying to make, because many people want just that out of what they listen to. Epic trance artists, on the other hand, often claim a certain passion or emotional connection with their work. |
They are Anthem Trance artists still the same. Whether they consider their music serious or not, that doesn't change what genre their work falls into.
| quote: | | Artists include Ian van Dahl, Lasgo, Milk Inc., DJ Sammy, Flip & Fill, ATB (his ones with vocals, at least), and so on. |
Most of those are known Anthem Trance producers that tranceaddicts feel the need to excersise from the rest of what they listen to because they happen to gain a greater ammount of popularity, and then a magical new genre springs up called "cheese trance" or "eurotrance" or whatever other adjectives they can come up with that seperate those few tracks/artists from the rest of Anthem Trance. Not because they're of less quality or even actually much "cheesier"(read: Darude). And judging music by popularity is not correct. The rest are Eurodance or some other form of cheesy house.
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Last edited by Radagast on Dec-03-2004 at 06:43
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I wouldn't exactly call them cheese.. but to be honest, I like most cheese stuff. Of course I wouldn't play it out but I'll listen to Milk Inc or something when I'm in the car or whatever 
