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occrider
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Originally posted by Shakka
Don't make it an issue of degree. My question was simply, isn't there the slightest double-standard at work here?


Well if you would categorize me shooting your dog in the same bucket as me shooting your family, than yes I suppose one could claim that there is a double standard. The point, is that they are nothing alike. Why would I give two shits if I get a letter asking for donations with a fake signature? I would give two shits if someone tried to pretend to console and care about the loss of a loved one by sending a letter but didn’t bother to sign it or spell my name right. It’s disrespectful … you’re better off not sending the letter at all.

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I have a friend who ate breakfast with a guy who's brother's sister's girlfriend saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night...but I digress. One of my main sources is a very smart research boutique that does excellent forensic accounting work among other things. Not to mention sources such as the WSJ, periodicals, and others. But like they say, "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent." Alas, here are a few snippets anyway(Pardon my paraphrased notes):

From the WSJ on 9/24/2004:


Comments from Lynn Turner on 10/14/2004:


Restatements that could total in excess of $5B will dramatically reduce the company’s book value, its regulatory capital levels, and its ability to grow. The process will take time...

And the kicker/summary/ramifications from my source...



Yup I stay abreast with the wsj religiously as well. However, I also take the time to read analyst reports of the material impact of the financial viability of FNM and FRE. The impact of the accounting digressions were already assessed when the revaluing of the derivatives portfolio was initially announced. It was already assumed that an earnings restatement would be forthcoming and that ofheo would force FNM to increase its regulatory capital, it’s common sense because that’ exactly what happened to FRE. Investors who are reacting to that news just now are way behind the ball on this. Therefore, the fact that ofheo is just publicly releasing this information now does not have a material impact on FNM’s portfolio valuation beyond what was anticipated back in September:

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December 8th 2004
Moody’s believes that risks should be mitigated on an economic basis, and we look through the accounting treatment of various financial instruments to understand and challenge the effectiveness of hedging strategies. In the case of Fannie Mae, the dynamic rebalancing of their market positions with a mix of instruments highlights the need for analysts to separate risk mitigation decisions from the accounting policies applied to the instruments used. As an example, a receiver swaption combined with a bullet pay fixed interest rate swap is economically equivalent to a cancelable swap while the accounting treatments of each of the two structures would be different. The GSEs’ GAAP earnings illustrate the complex non-linear path-dependent relationship between the firms’ financial quarterly results and the intra-quarter evolution of interest rates and interest rate volatilities.

Net interest income is primarily a function of the average level of interest rates and the mortgage to debt spread during the quarter and it is also affected by changes in amortization expenses/gains on premiums due to changes in interest rates. Guarantee and management fees are dependent on business volume subject to distortions from changes in amortization income due to changes in interest rates. Non-interest income is dependent on the changes in fair value in the derivatives and trading securities portfolios. For accounting purposes, on the fair values are mostly sensitive to changes in interest rates (duration and convexity effects). Of the three components of net revenues, the changes in non-interest income have the largest impact on the volatility of net revenues.

The asymmetric treatment of underlying exposures and hedges by FAS 133 introduces differences in the timing of derivatives impacts. Depending on the designation of the derivatives contracts the changes in market values are either classified in earnings or in the comprehensive income account (AOCI – a balance sheet account) for derivatives designated as cash-flow hedges. In most cases, the asymmetric treatment of the hedge and the underlying exposure will create volatility in reported financial results. Faced with this volatility, firms have the opportunity to influence the accounting result by choosing one particular hedging action over another one. Other factors might influence the choice of hedging decisions such as the reported amount of $ notional or cash-flow considerations.

Because of the impact of FAS 133 and FAS 149 on GAAP numbers, it is Moody’s position that earnings volatility does not fully reflect the economic risk picture of a firm. We prefer more economically driven measures as our key risk indicators, such as the change in the fair value of the balance sheet.
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Interest Rate Risk: Fannie Mae’s Principal Market Exposure
Fannie Mae’s strategy is intended to optimize the risk adjusted return trade-off to achieve its ROE target while protecting against unfavorable interest rate moves. Interest rate risks are hedged statically and dynamically with a mix of debt and derivatives instruments measured and monitored using multiple risk measures. The systems used by Fannie Mae are well regarded by Moody’s, and discussed in greater detail in the Model and System Risk section.
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Unhedged Spread Risk Creates Uncertainty, but Risk is Transitory
While the interest rate risk components are hedged, the mortgage-agency spread risk is not, and hence represents a potential major source of uncertainty in the fair value of net assets. However, this risk is transitory and does not affect the viability of the current portfolio in of the firm.


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Not to mention the imminemt slowdown in the housing boom/rising rate environment/move to ARMs from FRMs, which Fannie can't issue...


All of which will be counterbalanced by the tightening of the mortgage to debt spread risk as interest rates rise. Sure, I could focus on one or two items in a closed system and pretend that nothing else is going on, but that’s not going to help me to evaluate the firm’s overall performance. Besides, most of the firm’s earnings come from asset liability management, not g-fees.

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But on second thought, you're right. This sounds like the ideal place to stash my hard earned duckets. These guys are the poster child of proper management and accounting. All of the negative issues are clearly behind them now and the skies are clear going forward. I know this is true because the stock price has gone up. Nevermind what could possibly happen if the government didn't give them "implicit backing". But I digress...this is for another discussion on another day.


Well if it were legal, I would have bought FNM stock shortly after the double dip and held on to it for a while … the risk from these transitory changes are all going to be borne by short-term shareholders.


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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Well if it were legal, I would have bought FNM stock shortly after the double dip and held on to it for a while


Likewise, I would've bought 10,000 shares of Microsoft in 1986 and would've shorted a billion shares of Enron on 9/28/2000. The whole hindsight thing is just so much fun!


On a side note--my apologies if I pissed you off or rubbed you the wrong way with any of my commentary. This is certainly a heated topic. And while I've never met you and don't know much of anything about you, I truly wish you a happy and joyous holiday(whatever you celebrate). Life is too short to go through pissed off.

P.S. If I were to send you a hoiday card, I promise I would sign it myself.

Cheers!

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Originally posted by Shakka
Likewise, I would've bought 10,000 shares of Microsoft in 1986 and would've shorted a billion shares of Enron on 9/28/2000. The whole hindsight thing is just so much fun!


Indeed it is.

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On a side note--my apologies if I pissed you off or rubbed you the wrong way with any of my commentary. This is certainly a heated topic. And while I've never met you and don't know much of anything about you, I truly wish you a happy and joyous holiday(whatever you celebrate). Life is too short to go through pissed off.


Meh ... it's bound to happen on a message board. No offense taken . Anyway have a happy festivus to yourself as well. By the way ... I celebrate drinking .

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P.S. If I were to send you a hoiday card, I promise I would sign it myself.


Haha only from you would I accept an auto-signature

Cheers! [/QUOTE]


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Shakka
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Not to harp on an old thread, but did you happen catch the Barron's follow-up article over the weekend?

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[quote]Mortgaging the Future
Fannie Mae's troubles are far from over


THE BIG HEADS FINALLY ROLLED at Fannie Mae last week, but the soap opera starring the company's crummy accounting is far from over.

Two weeks ago, the Securities and Exchange Commission stunned Fannie Mae and its many camp followers in Wall Street's analytic community and on Capitol Hill by corroborating serious accounting violations at the government-sponsored mortgage giant that will entail the reversal of about $9 billion in profits reported by Fannie over the past three and a half years. Then, on Tuesday, Fannie directors forced the departure of chief executive Franklin Raines and chief financial officer Tim Howard, and dismissed Fannie's outside accounting firm KPMG.

Raines, a former high-ranking official in the Clinton Administration, was a big-time power broker in Washington D.C., with the ability to reward politicians with large campaign donations and funding for pet housing initiatives in home districts. Fannie played the lobbying game with unmatched vigor and aplomb. Adding to Raines's cachet was the fact that he was one of the first African-Americans to head a Fortune 500 company.

Barron's readers were amply prepared for the latest developments. In a cover story earlier this year ("Swept Away," May 17) we warned that the quasi-public housing giant used unorthodox accounting to pump up its earnings and capital position and, at the same time, justify huge pay packages for Raines and other senior managers. We even detailed where the accounting games were being played: [b]The company classified more than $13 billion of losing derivative positions as "cash-flow" hedges.

This treatment allowed Fannie to spread the losses over many years rather than expensing them immediately. These losses were incurred as a result of Fannie's inept hedging and ill-timed bet that mortgage rates would remain steady or rise.
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Fannie's Franklin Raines: out of a job



Three months ago, Fannie's regulator, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise (Ofheo), released a stinging 200-page report that delineated serious violations of accounting rules. It charged Fannie with abuse of, among other things, expense recognition and its use of derivative accounting. Raines and other Fannie officials stoutly defended the outfit's accounting procedures in subsequent congressional hearings, stating that it would abide by any decision on accounting questions by the SEC, which in the meantime had launched its own investigation. Thus, Fannie rolled the dice and lost big-time when the SEC, in effect, ruled in favor of Ofheo.

Yet Fannie's chorus of cheerleaders on Wall Street remains mostly in denial. Last week, Robert Napoli of PiperJaffray held to his view that the Fannie contretemps is largely a mere "accounting issue" and kept his 12-month target price for Fannie's stock at 95. The shares currently trade around 72.

Jonathan Gray of Sanford Bernstein, a longtime holder of Fannie in his personal account, saw fit to drop his price target to 84 from 86, following the departures of Raines and Howard. Yet he has long depicted Ofheo's investigation of Fannie as a witch hunt by an overzealous regulatory agency.

We would observe the following, however. Since it will take Fannie months, if not years, to restate nearly four years of results, the company will be unable to file current earnings reports with the SEC for many, many quarters to come. Thus, earnings projections are an exercise in the theater of the absurd.

And more bad news seems likely to emerge as Ofheo continues to probe other accounting areas at Fannie. Likewise, Wall Street seems to be ignoring an ongoing Justice Department probe of possible criminal-accounting fraud at Fannie. Before it's all over, Fannie may well enjoy the dubious distinction of perpetrating the largest accounting fraud in U.S. corporate history, topping the $11 billion mark set by WorldCom that sent the telecom concern careening into bankruptcy in 2002.
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After expensing its derivative losses, Fannie will be some $3 billion below its Ofheo-mandated minimum-capital requirement, with regulatory capital of around $30 billion. At least that's the capital deficiency as of the end of the third quarter. If nothing materially changes, that capital deficiency would balloon to over $12 billion by June 30, 2005, when Fannie must meet an Ofheo-mandated capital surcharge of 30%.

At a minimum, Fannie likely will have to suspend its dividend, which would save it about $2 billion a year. The company likely will marshal more capital by shrinking its billion-dollar investment portfolio through run-off and cutbacks on new purchases of mortgages and mortgage-backed securities.

Some analysts hope Fannie can realize gains in its investment portfolio. (Gray claims that as of the end of last year there were $14 billion of such after-tax gains, based on Fannie's "fair value", marked-to-market balance sheet.) However, most of these gains can't be harvested because they sit in Fannie's hold-to-maturity portfolio. Besides, at this point, who can believe the values Fannie assigned to either its assets or liabilities as of that date? And rising rates won't help much in paring the losses in its derivative portfolio, since the bulk of those losses already have been locked in or offset by swap positions that would lose value in a rising rate environment.

Fannie over the years has used its huge permitted capital leverage to gun its growth and earnings. But leverage can hurt when operations are shrunk. To come up with $10 billion in new capital if all else fails, Fannie would have to dump over $300 million of its trillion-dollar investment portfolio. That, of course, would decimate earnings. Sadly, Fannie promises to be a falling-rock zone for stock investors for the foreseeable future.

-- Jonathan R. Laing

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I think we can all agree that Rumsfeld is the scum of the earth and move on.

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I think we can all agree that Rumsfeld is the scum of the earth and move on.


Great political commentary by DJ Tomer. Why is he the scum of the earth in your opinion? I would like to know why.

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Great political commentary by DJ Tomer. Why is he the scum of the earth in your opinion? I would like to know why.


I guess that was a little harsh, but still,



I can't say I have any respect for the man

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Yes, all political situations are completely stable and unchanging. That's why we're still enemies with England, Italy, Germany, Japan and the former Soviet Union. That picture does absolutely nothing but serve as a history lesson.

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quote:
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I guess that was a little harsh, but still,



I can't say I have any respect for the man


When that pic was taken, Rummy was still just another pawn in the game.





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