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Originally posted by Ian^ Lieb is a god, kosmas is a nobody who's only made a couple of tracks that have been overhyped. Come back to us in 10 years and you won't even remember who he is, whereas you will with Lieb

Will they fuck. If this scene even lasts that long, nobody will talk about Oliver Lieb.

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If you think Kosmas Epsilon belongs to the “mcprog” group then you're just blinded by being part of the super-cool-bad-boys-gay-combo who marks everything they don't like as “mcprog” and have no fucking clue of what actual progressive is.

Oliver is good, one of my favorite producers no matter how irrelevant that could be these days, but he also recycles sounds and even melodies like most of the big producers out there. He has produced an amazing shitload of works but quality was generally intermittent. Is well known that Lieb has amazing skills when producing, but not only because he's been producing for more than 20 years then should he be considered a god.

I can see why Kosmas was compared to Lieb specially when young Kosmas just released, in a period shorter than 6 months, several tracks that CAN be compared to most of Lieb`s masterpieces (i.e. Innocent Thoughts & A Dream) due to their amazing melodic complexity and original sounds.

So far nobody said Kosmas was better than Lieb neither, the thread starter simply asked if he was a young reminiscence, but the fisrt two idiotic replies sent this thread to hell.

The only fact than can be said for sure is this: this year at least, Kosmas was far better than Oliver.

I doubt Oliver Lieb gives a rat's ass what people think of him. Lieb does'nt give you the same formulaic tripe as others often do. I think for anyone to come close to Lieb, you have to achieve something special and no producer these days comes close to what he did.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I doubt Oliver Lieb gives a rat's ass what people think of him. Lieb does'nt give you the same formulaic tripe as others often do. I think for anyone to come close to Lieb, you have to achieve something special and no producer these days comes close to what he did.

I absolutely agree, but this thread is specifically about Kosmas and Oliver, are you saying that Kosmas is formulaic and/or unoriginal by any chance?

My personal opinion about Kosmas does'nt matter. I don't see Kosmas making tracks like the early Oliver Lieb did. Oliver Lieb's early days were special, he showed he had that something extra special about him. I'm not saying Oliver Lieb is the greatest thing since sliced bread but his history speaks for itself. People can argue about Kosmas and Lieb till the cows come home, I honestly don't care but Lieb has done so many styles, so well that he deserves massive props either way.

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Originally posted by torontotrance ...I don't see Kosmas making tracks like the early Oliver Lieb did...

Just for curiosity, please give me a couple of Oliver's tunes you thought about when making that statement.

I don't know about torontotrance, but personally for me it would be Spicelab - Planet Spice. If you have a short attention span the perhaps Taucher - Happiness (Spicelab Remix).

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Will they fuck. If this scene even lasts that long, nobody will talk about Oliver Lieb.

as i've related in the other thread...you're a weak nigga.

what's happening here?????

btw, have a happy New Year

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Originally posted by kosmasepsilon what's happening here????? btw, have a happy New Year

well said kosma...vristous ligaki giati phran fora kai se xleyazoun...

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you ppl have to stop flaming eatchother for these things. everyone has their own opinon and you can say it without being offencive.

if you post here cuz u love the music, then love it and stop bitching in every thread.

Last edited by dj jasonF on Dec-27-2004 at 17:47

for a moment i thought i accidently came to greece local discussions forums here

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