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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance I was just reacting to the B.S. of Mensa. What do you want him to do? He spoke three days after the event. What should he have done? Create a Department of Tidal and Earthquake Security? Said "I feel your pain" comment like Clinton?

well he probably did enough, i wont say anything about that *yet*.

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Also my money comment was to nations who critizise the policies of the United States. It is not a bribe but genuine aid. This board to a certain extent describes this. The policies of the United States affect its citizens and the world. The president and Congress of the United States make decisions that seem good or beneficial to the US at the time. The world does seem to nit-pick over everything from the debt to Iraq to the color of Bush's crap. I understand it is important to give input and your influence but it is not likely you are going to change his mind.

Here's where you still doesnt really make sense tho.

Why wouldnt we have the right to crtizice your government even tho it does good things too? Everyone does good and bad things, you must still have the right to critizize all the bad things.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Well, the EU countries have pledged about 70 million dollars so far (just added the sums from the link below). http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/new...10433536336.htm

i think this figures must be wrong/old. I just saw that UK/Spain alone have spend almost 100 million dollars in aid so far...

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Originally posted by St_Andrew well he probably did enough, i wont say anything about that *yet*. Here's where you still doesnt really make sense tho. Why wouldnt we have the right to crtizice your government even tho it does good things too? Everyone does good and bad things, you must still have the right to critizize all the bad things.

It seems to me that the world nit picks on the US and Isreal the most. Criticism is alright, but it seems to me that it is mostly just plain anti-Americanism. Most of our threads resort to name calling. There is a difference between constructive criticism and outright name calling.
For example, the Iraq war was wrong due to.... comapred to "It was the defense of Zionism or No Blood for Oil."
For shit's sake, this thread is about Bush making a statement 3 days after the event. Our local newspaper is also blowing this up. Like my scrcasm of my last post noted is that what could he have done? Make a statement? Money takes time to appropriate. The president needs to get the money through proper channels.

I wonder why.......?

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Originally posted by St_Andrew i think this figures must be wrong/old. I just saw that UK/Spain alone have spend almost 100 million dollars in aid so far...

just to add something to myself again, Sweden alone (with 9 million people) have so far pledged 75 million dollars to this.

twice as much as the US so far, with 2% of the US's population.

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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance It seems to me that the world nit picks on the US and Isreal the most. Criticism is alright, but it seems to me that it is mostly just plain anti-Americanism. Most of our threads resort to name calling. There is a difference between constructive criticism and outright name calling. For example, the Iraq war was wrong due to.... comapred to "It was the defense of Zionism or No Blood for Oil." For shit's sake, this thread is about Bush making a statement 3 days after the event. Our local newspaper is also blowing this up. Like my scrcasm of my last post noted is that what could he have done? Make a statement? Money takes time to appropriate. The president needs to get the money through proper channels.

well of course there will always be people who do the name calling thing ON BOTH SIDES but i think in general, much/most of the criticism is valid.

nit picks is a great phrase..now not to be nit picking..the us and isreal seem to take up an awful lot of news..bad news

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Originally posted by Shakka tektonic plates

tectonic

sorry i'm a geologist

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Originally posted by St_Andrew well of course there will always be people who do the name calling thing ON BOTH SIDES but i think in general, much/most of the criticism is valid.

Criticizing Bush for making a statement three days after an event is valid? The fact that USAID's budget is gone and congress needs time to appropriate more money is a valid criticism? I thought it was well known that the President doesn't control the purse string, congress does.

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Originally posted by occrider Criticizing Bush for making a statement three days after an event is valid? The fact that USAID's budget is gone and congress needs time to appropriate more money is a valid criticism? I thought it was well known that the President doesn't control the purse string, congress does.

i dont think i ever said that the US is doing too litle atm. Quite the opposite i think. What I said was that most/many times it is valid criticism.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew just to add something to myself again, Sweden alone (with 9 million people) have so far pledged 75 million dollars to this. twice as much as the US so far, with 2% of the US's population.

Apparently you seem to be the western country with most citizens caught up in the disaster, too. I guess that has had an effect on making the reality of the catastrophe more apparent to Swedes, and consequently led to more donations? The same tendency can be seen in Norway, which also has a lot of citizens in the areas hit by the waves, and who also has drummed up a lot of money.

dont forget private corporations donations
pfizer alone gave 35 million

coca cola, johnson and johnson, sears, intel, cisco all have their own plans too. (matching or whatsoever)

honestly at this point im not worried about getting enough money. everyone in the world knows the disaster and is helping.

the bigger problem is sorting out the dead.