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Originally posted by Jayx1 It's because when you go to a club it's about music just like a rock concert. Lounges have lower music so you can socialize more. A good club has loud but crisp sound and a good lounge doesnt. Earplugs are an option if it really bothers you. Some people have hypersensitive hearing.

I know what you mean... but there's too much of an echo in Viva...The crowd can only hear thumping bass and not the rest of the tracks that are being played. Maybe its the speakers? Shitty quality? Or it could be that they're not placed properly which is causing the sound to bounce off the walls and miss the crowd... Anyway... The only reason I go to Viva is because of the music... A place like Viva should have a high quality sound system cause the music is f'n awesome...

It also depends on where you are in the club. Different parts of the club have different sound quality. Walk around and find the area of the club where it sounds best to you. Usually somewhere in the centre of the floor.

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Aw man...thanks for IDing that track dood...
I heard it at the beginning of AvB's Top 2004 and thought...woah...great track!

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For me lounges have a nice balanced sound ... not too loud, but not too soft. A bit louder than lounges, I don't mind either.

And for me, I've yet to be in a club with a crisp sound ... this is because most clubs have such strong bass, or the system pumps out so many decibels, your inner ear closes up a bit, and the sound becomes muffled. I forgot the biological explanation of it, but it's an adaptive technique that the ear uses to prevent damage. And coming out of the club with ringing in your ears is not normal ... that's just damaging to your ears. Plus, most some clubs just have an awful setup, where the bass often gets distorted, or the mids and highs sound really bad, and fuzzy. The new Docks system, I admit is crisp, has crisp bass, BUT, it's just so LOUD, 100,000 Watts I think, that's just overkill. Without earplugs, your ears close up, and the sound becomes muffled, defeating the purpose of having such a crisp system. And ear plugs kind of ruin the experience, but some people have no choice. I think it would do a lot of good for clubs to position lots fo small speakers around the club, and renovate the club for better acoustics. Most clubs simply have gigantic speakers at each corner, and that's about it. I mean, say it's completely jammed at a club, and some people are forced do dance right next to that gigantic speaker . Having more speakers, and smaller speakers I think allows better dispersion of the sound, so the sound is the same no matter where you are in the club. I see more and more clubs are starting to incorporate lounges into their complexes, which is a good thing, say if you just want to rest, or relax, go to the lounge, and when you're good to go, just go back into the club side.

Just as an example, at Sensation, in Amsterdam Arena, they hooked up lots of small speakers on the roof/ceiling structure, and only had a few gigantosarauses on the dance floor. It's ironic, in Europe, at indoor air parties like Sensation, some people actually complain that the sound is too weak. Here in Canada, it seems we have the opposite complaints.


Some of you may disagree with me, but this is people's health we're talking about. Just as a side note, I heard that the rule of thumb is, if you're in a club, talking to your friend who's standing right beside you ... and he/she can't hear you, then it's considered to loud.

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why do i have a feeling the government will pass legislation like this some day? My theory on sound is that if you can hear the person talking next to you then that person shouldnt be talking. ITS A DANCE CLUB! LOL

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Well I would like a dance club that doesn't damage my hearing.

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Originally posted by Dark_Archonis Well I would like a dance club that doesn't damage my hearing.

Thank you for your input.System tunning will be addressed more often to make sure Viva delivers the highest quality party (sound/lighthings/djs/music/vibe) in Toronto's after hour scene.

Awesome . Were you by any chance one of the DJ's who performed before Talla? Some great tracks were dropped before Talla came on.

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I couldn't agree more with his assessment of the sound quality in Viva. I can go out the Guvernment without earplugs and usually make out pretty well with my ears still intact. But Viva has a few spots where the sound just ripples my eardrum. Obviously enough, it's right in front of/under the bass speakers.

I love the sound at System Soundbar in the front lounge, it's loud, but not so obscene that I'm leaving with my hands over my ears like I had to do a few times at Viva before I got some earplugs. Even the main room is great.

It honestly is incredibly loud in Viva, much louder than it needs to be in such a small space, and wearing earplugs ruins the mids and highs in the trance that I love so much (and is the reason I've skipped a few nights in favour of getting smushed into the Guv, where I don't need earplugs). I think a club is loud enough when you need to yell to be heard.

As a suggestion, not a complaint, I'd absolutely love it if the sound was toned down a bit, and would make it out much more often than I currently do. The opinion of just one customer doesn't usually mean much when it's something that affects ALL patrons like quality of sound. But, I DO feel that the sound is a little overboard in Viva.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It also depends on where you are in the club. Different parts of the club have different sound quality. Walk around and find the area of the club where it sounds best to you. Usually somewhere in the centre of the floor.

agreed happens in every club!


well i realised a lot of things after partying for 3 yrs.

After my first 2 or 3 trips to VIVA I kinda got used to it and tried to avoid standing right next to a big speaker all night

VIVA's sound system is still arguably the best around and easily top 4 amongst THE GUVERNMENT, BOA and THE DOCKS when it comes to sound systems overall

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Originally posted by Dark_Archonis Awesome . Were you by any chance one of the DJ's who performed before Talla? Some great tracks were dropped before Talla came on.

No i'm not. open for talla is dj key,he plays 11 - 3 every other week.(except fri. 28 he will close)