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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

I did some DoCoMo protyping for our Japanese division back in 1999/2000 and Canada still isn't there.


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harcourt
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto

Small example of how they have more options.

Cingular Nation 600 w/Rollover $49.99/month

- 600 Anytime Minutes
- Unlimited Evening/Weekends
- Unlimited Mobile to mobile (assuming Cingular to Cingular)
- Long distance included
- Roaming Including (US Roaming)

Features Included
- Basic Voicemail
- Call Forwarding
- Call Waiting
- Call Display
- Detailed Billing
- Long Distance

Oh, did I mention you can roll-over your 600 minutes if you don't use them.

Let me see you get THAT service in Canada for $49.99/month out of your pocket.

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harcourt
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
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Flip = too fragile.

I want a CDMA Sony p910 (tw1tch, quiet with your GPRS bragging!! )


I don't think they make a CDMA version, GSM is the only way to go.

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

come on dudes you can't compare Japan and Canada... Japan's land mass is about one third of Ontario's.... it cost much less to deploy wireless networks in a country of that size than in a huge country like Canada. And don't tell me that none of the networks cover all of Canada, of course, but look at the coverage maps by each company, its way bigger than japan...

for fuck's sake, even Syria has a 3G network, and its a developping country (if not 3rd world), but its tiny.

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ShadoWolf
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quote:
Originally posted by malek
come on dudes you can't compare Japan and Canada... Japan's land mass is about one third of Ontario's.... it cost much less to deploy wireless networks in a country of that size than in a huge country like Canada. And don't tell me that none of the networks cover all of Canada, of course, but look at the coverage maps by each company, its way bigger than japan...

for fuck's sake, even Syria has a 3G network, and its a developping country (if not 3rd world), but its tiny.



they could deploy the networks in the major metropolitan areas first, then spread them out as the cost comes down..

...in fact, they've been doing that to an extent, but just not fast enough.


four possible reasons:

1. our land lines are very good, so there's no pressing need (in contrast to Syria)

2. Canada is poorer than other OECD nations (in contrast to Japan and the U.S., which are far richer than Canada on an absolute basis and per capita)

3. the big players are to some extent protected from market forces by the Lieberals, so they don't feel rushed to make large capital investments

4. smaller population = smaller possible subscription base to which capex can be spread out


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harcourt
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Registered: Mar 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by malek
come on dudes you can't compare Japan and Canada... Japan's land mass is about one third of Ontario's.... it cost much less to deploy wireless networks in a country of that size than in a huge country like Canada. And don't tell me that none of the networks cover all of Canada, of course, but look at the coverage maps by each company, its way bigger than japan...

for fuck's sake, even Syria has a 3G network, and its a developping country (if not 3rd world), but its tiny.


I don't think you can use that really. So it's one third, the coverage of the networks available in ontario only cover about a 3rd to half of Ontario, yet they're years behind.

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malek
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I don't think you can use that really. So it's one third, the coverage of the networks available in ontario only cover about a 3rd to half of Ontario, yet they're years behind.


and add the coverage areas of all the other provinces.

plus canada is only the quarter of the Japanese population.

might explain why Canada is far behind Japan and to some extent the US.



in syria there was coverage in the middle of the desert where no city were to be found, complete shitholes like you never imagined with GPRS coverage hehehe...

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harcourt
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I don't buy all the crap about smaller population, more land. The mobile industry is controlled by what 3 companies? They all do the same shit, they don't have to worry about foreign competition, they can sit pretty and with little concern.

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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

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plus canada is only the quarter of the Japanese population.

That's exactly what makes the Canadian networks so worthless. Good networks are just as much about the number of people covered as they are about the area of coverage. Our networks are hardly servicing anyone and they still can't keep up.

The fact that there's coverage in other provinces really doesn't matter much. So the telcos install a couple more satellites and base stations... that's not really a technological improvement. And that's exactly the problem - instead of actually improving the networks, they just keep installing more relays so the networks get all bloated.

Think of a LAN in an office which used to have 10 people and now has 1000. And instead of changing the network topology, all they do is buy a shitload of switches and hook them all up in a tree, and don't change anything else. That is exactly what the telcos here are doing with the wireless networks.


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quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
I don't buy all the crap about smaller population, more land. The mobile industry is controlled by what 3 companies? They all do the same shit, they don't have to worry about foreign competition, they can sit pretty and with little concern.


Rogers has donated almost $500,000 to the Lieberals in the past few years, and Bell quite a bit as well.

http://www.elections.ca/scripts/web...entity=4&lang=e


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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
I don't buy all the crap about smaller population, more land. The mobile industry is controlled by what 3 companies? They all do the same shit, they don't have to worry about foreign competition, they can sit pretty and with little concern.


no competition isn't helping us, so these guys are sitting on their ass because its just too risky financially to deploy massive networks for such a small population.

and i'm not even sure that a foreign company would try and install a brand new network.

What canada needs is a law like some european countries where companies are forced to share their towers (decreases the costs of network deployments).

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DigiNut
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Rogers has donated almost $500,000 to the Lieberals in the past few years, and Bell quite a bit as well.

http://www.elections.ca/scripts/web...entity=4&lang=e


What I find most ironic about that graph is how almost all of the top contributions to the Conservatives have been from INDIVIDUALS and almost all the Liberal funds have come from COMPANIES.

Sort of puts the whole "greedy capitalist corporation" stereotype into perspective, eh? Or maybe it's just a small reminder that the LIEberals are always for sale.


Also, who the fuck is 55555 Inc and why in the world did they give the Lieberals $3 million!? I can't find any information about them, anywhere. Something about that doesn't smell right.


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