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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by King_Mack
I did manage to see him spin at a club due to a birthday party I was forced to go.His set was 90% vinyl...so I dont really think he'd get into too much trouble.


well he should be fined just for playing then, lol. I know i know, useless comment, but he really does suck! i heard him for the first time the other day, and i was really upset.


as for the Italian DJ; a fine shouldnt be higher than the damadge he may have caused. there is no way 2000mp3's is worth a couple of million! thats just crazy. Fine him per song or something, not some huge outrageous number

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Nrg2Nfinit
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


DJ Danny D ??



lol actualy danny d buys records


Marky D would probably be hurt big time though.. ive never seen that ugy spin a record in my life.. he probably doesnt own one.. just 200 + burned cds

danny d is responsibe for making illegal mixes and getting them airplayo n the radio

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KristinA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: MadriD

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Originally posted by tatgirl
Countries that require you to bribe the cops dont rank high on my list of places to go, at all. THERE'S NOTHING I HATE MORE than a crooked law enforcement system. It's an abuse of power, and those who do it don't deserve the badge. If I can't trust or depend on the police force in place, I don't want to go / live there.


honestly i don't trust any police in any place!!!!

Old Post Feb-19-2005 00:21  Europe
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

I like countries where u can bribe the cops. Speeding tickets are so much easier and cheaper to get out of!


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Old Post Feb-19-2005 00:22  Canada
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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

That fines scary... and i do think its WAY to fucking high (just riddiculous... come on), but honestly, he needs to be fined.

if ur commerical djing u should not using music u downloaded for free online off kazaa/souleseek, etc.

i agree w/ jayxl's comment 100%!!


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Tully
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

so has anyone found out who it was yet??????

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Mr Rogers
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Stoney Creek, ontario

I agree with Jayx on this one....i really don't think its fair for a "Big Time DJ" to be play'n pirated mp3's. Dude, ur making the money...support ur fellow dj's and buy the damn vinyls....i don't get it. I understand a local dj throw'n on an mp3 here and there..but when u got these huge djs thrown essential mixes/lives recorded sets and what not....i thinks its totally wrong. Sure the fine is hefty but....what can u do.
He should know better


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Rogers
I agree with Jayx on this one....i really don't think its fair for a "Big Time DJ" to be play'n pirated mp3's. Dude, ur making the money...support ur fellow dj's and buy the damn vinyls....i don't get it. I understand a local dj throw'n on an mp3 here and there..but when u got these huge djs thrown essential mixes/lives recorded sets and what not....i thinks its totally wrong. Sure the fine is hefty but....what can u do.
He should know better


Its not fair for ANY DJ to be making money off off pirated MP3s. If you are getting paid, BUY THE MUSIC.

NO excuses.

Why was it possible for them to do that before?


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Everything in this country is illegal.

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‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Feb-19-2005 18:17  Canada
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QryS
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Its not fair for ANY DJ to be making money off off pirated MP3s. If you are getting paid, BUY THE MUSIC.

NO excuses.

Why was it possible for them to do that before?


How about playing white labels with uncleared samples? Some artist is still getting "ripped off" if you do it.

What if you'd never buy a 50 Cent album, but there's one bit you like in one of the songs that you want to sample? Would you be more forgiving to someone who got the sample without paying, if the person did a good job creatively turning it into something new and exciting? For me, I think a big-time producer would have no excuse, but if you're just a kid who wants to hone his pruduction skills, then I would let it go. (Then sue him when the track gets big.)

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

^^^^

Good point

however white labels are usually small time and at least the person who did it put a lot of his own work into it. Yes its not the most ethical thing to do but pales in comparison to having a book of pirated MP3s and getting paid weekly to play them.

As for the original material. Anybody who can produce would NEVER use a downloaded sample to work from. They would get the cleanest sample possible directly from the source. If some kid fucking around does this from downloading a song he's probably not going to make it that big anyways.


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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Feb-19-2005 18:58  Canada
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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Anybody who can produce would NEVER use a downloaded sample to work from. They would get the cleanest sample possible directly from the source.



A "sample" is just a particular sound that's repeated and/or modulated in a track. I think you're using the word incorrectly. The term itself makes no statement about what it contains - it could be an entire a capella or it could be just a snare drum, and you can download many samples that are royalty-free. Almost every producer on the planet uses at least SOME downloaded samples of the latter variety, except the ones that can afford to buy thousands of dollars worth of their own sampling equipment and thousands of dollars worth of sample CDs.

I think what you're trying to say is that good producers don't rip samples from other people's productions? But they could just as easily rip from a CD or from a live show.


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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

To use portions of other people's music you must get that owner's permission first. Usually those artists or label's want financial compensation for that portion or sample. There are entertainment lawyers who specialize in making deals for artists to sample other's work.

If you can reproduce that sound yourself instead of copying it directly then no royalties are due. But thats a hard feat to accomplish especially when vocals are involved.

Yes there are plenty of free samples you are right. Its always free to sample your own flatulence for example


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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