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Originally posted by Radagast Should you have respect for someone who took the easy way out? Like this guy had it fucking bad anyway. If you want to respect someone, respect Captain Charles Butler McVay III. He commanded 1,196 men on the USS Indianapolis in WWII. The ship was sunk, the crew had to wait five days for rescue while sharks, dehydration, sleep deprivation, and nature ate at them. Only 316 men survived, including Captain McVay. The Navy needed a scapegoat to cover the incompetence shown by how long it took to rescue the Indy's survivirs, so they court-martialed McVay for frivilous charges. The only captain out of 700 destroyed vessels in WWII to recieve a court-martial. He was convicted of not "Zig Zagging", ergo placing his ship in danger. The commander of the Japanese sub who sank the Indianapolis testified that it would have made no difference as to whether they did the Zig Zag maneuver or not. Still, McVay retired four years after the conviction and was hounded and blamed by the family members of the dead sailors until he could take no more and committed suicide. Yeah, feel sorry for him if you want to waste time feeling sorry for someone you don't know.

Heroes come in different forms... don't you ever try and desecrate the memory of someone who someone else holds dear... As a Veteran MYSELF, I take every military death seriously and it pains me to hear of a fellow Serviceman that was pushed to this point, but, I also take other deaths seriously, too... Hunter S. Thompson made it a goal to bring honesty to journalism and that in and of itself was a defiance and a battle... And you say he took the "easy" way out...I think that ALL people who have had a personal brush with suicide will tell you, that it's anything but the easy way out.... everyone has demons that come in different forms and until you know Hunter's, then don't waste your time passing judgement on a stranger's inner turmoil...

"America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable."

H.S. Thompson

Not a man who would have a little thing like death be out of his own control.
RIP

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"He was an old, sick, and very troubled man, and the illusion of peace and contentment was not enough for him—not even when his friends came up from Cuba and played bullfight with him in the Tram. So finally, and for what he must have thought the best of reasons, he ended it with a shotgun."

- Hunter S. Thompson (What Lured Hemingway to Ketchum, 1964)

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Originally posted by zenperson Heroes come in different forms... don't you ever try and desecrate the memory of someone who someone else holds dear... As a Veteran MYSELF, I take every military death seriously and it pains me to hear of a fellow Serviceman that was pushed to this point, but, I also take other deaths seriously, too... Hunter S. Thompson made it a goal to bring honesty to journalism and that in and of itself was a defiance and a battle... And you say he took the "easy" way out...I think that ALL people who have had a personal brush with suicide will tell you, that it's anything but the easy way out.... everyone has demons that come in different forms and until you know Hunter's, then don't waste your time passing judgement on a stranger's inner turmoil...

Very well said

HST's last Hey Rube on ESPN.com

pretty good stuff, even to the end. anyone who cant see past his vices doesnt have a heart. truly a master of his own crazy world|


edit:Tom Wolfe on HST

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Last edited by biznology on Feb-24-2005 at 02:10

Interesting...

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps...r_911_story.htm



Interview before "suicide" in Real Media:

http://www.libertythink.com/HST911insidejob.rm

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Originally posted by Nou Those planes brought down the towers...

LOL

defying all physics



(and the moon is made of cheese)

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Originally posted by Trancer-X "He was an old, sick, and very troubled man, and the illusion of peace and contentment was not enough for him—not even when his friends came up from Cuba and played bullfight with him in the Tram. So finally, and for what he must have thought the best of reasons, he ended it with a shotgun." - Hunter S. Thompson (What Lured Hemingway to Ketchum, 1964)

[sarcasm] Yes, very uplifting, a try hero to us all [/sarcasm]

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Originally posted by Nou LOL, don't get me wrong I love placing blame on the US for everything. But thats not what happend in this case. If you know anything about how those buildings were designed you would know how incredibly possible it would be for them to collapse like that.

Dude, please stop talking out of your ass.

The structural engineer of those buildings (along with Underwriters Laboratories, etc.) have stated publicly that they were initially designed to withstand such impacts. Even if the steel beams did somehow manage to melt in temperatures a thousand degrees less than they normally would, it's physically impossible for them to have fallen into their own footprints like they did - considering how uneven the damage was from the planes.

http://www.boulderweekly.com/archiv...coverstory.html

http://www.freepressinternational.c...ager_88888.html

http://www.reopen911.org/Tarpley_ch_6.pdf

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Originally posted by CyberneticAngel [sarcasm] Yes, very uplifting, a try hero to us all [/sarcasm]

He probably had more creative talent in his pinky finger than your family's had in it's entire bloodline.

No sarcasm here.

BTW - what's a try hero?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Dude, please stop talking out of your ass. The structural engineer of those buildings (along with Underwriters Laboratories, etc.) have stated publicly that they were initially designed to withstand such impacts. Even if the steel beams did somehow manage to melt in temperatures a thousand degrees less than they normally would, it's physically impossible for them to have fallen into their own footprints like they did - considering how uneven the damage was from the planes. http://www.boulderweekly.com/archiv...coverstory.html http://www.freepressinternational.c...ager_88888.html http://www.reopen911.org/Tarpley_ch_6.pdf

I only have one question, why? Whats the motive?

(and no, don't link me, I am not going to look. I want you to try and put it in your own words instead of just repeating some crap you read on some nuts website)

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wow p0wned COR style just as occrider would put it

u still have not elaborated as to how that statement u just made invalidate(sp?) what the engineers and component certificators of the buildings have stated.

*referring to nou