They were pissed off because noboby would buy their 707 @ the price they released it at and now it sells for $300 instead of $700. That would piss me off too.

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Now they need to lower the price of the 909. The 909 is the EXACT same thing as the 707 with the EFX unit

If they did lower the price on the 909 I would probably buy one but don't tell anyone else I said that.

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so then essentially the fx are worth hundreds more than the actual mixer.... sounds like bad priority on pios part

Most pioneer mixers are all about the effects that they offer. I would say that the 92 can probably come close to the DJM1000 as far as the V6, Urei and Bozak there not even in the same league. A truly analog signal path means less analog to digital conversions which means less signal degradation and hence better sound quality. The pioneer will always do at least 1 A to D conversion.

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Originally posted by SUNWmsf My personal opinion is that a high end analog system would blow away a high end digital system in the club environment. Just can't beat that analog sound.... I just don't think digital is ready to take over analog (audiophile-wise). But that's just my opinion. (hope I don't get flamed for saying that analog sound is superior to digital sound.)

the difference of sound quality that is actually noticable between analog and digital in the club and even in your bedroom assuming you dont have high end monitors is VERY small. I would pass up on that slim difference for new innovative technology and pioneer has been known to do just that.

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Heads up guys,

The Vestax is an awesome mixer and to be fair why the hell anyone could hands down say that one is better than the other in this thread is beyond me. Half of you have probably never played on either of them!

Vestax make some seriously good mixers and this one is a monster for control freaks.

Two very solid lush sounding mixers I wouldn't turn either of them down, but favour the vestax because it looks less like a toy.

I have played on both (in the last month in fact) and like both.

There is no wrong answer with this comparison other than the style of DJing he has and what your friend prefers.

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well put nem

Im sure i posted on this thread in reply to someone... where'd it go?

didnt like the pioneer 600 when i used it. didnt feel nice. Never had any issues with vestax stuff tho- look stunning and tend to sound and feel it too.

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Digital never will have the total accuracy of a pure analog recording or manipulation systems. It will sound different from the original, although slightly in this case.

yea, only if your ears are more sensitive than a fucking dog's. bottom line - that thing has 24 bit 92 khz converters. it might even be 192khz. i cant remember. either way, even if it is the lower one that yields a pretty insane frequency response of about 46,000hz which is more than double the limits of human hearing and more than accurate enough for any producer at 24 bit resolution - i mean you are hardly gonna hear the quantization noise from that are you? maybe if you are dumbo. you will never notice the difference beyond 23,000hz either. the only reason why most monitors and soundsystems are responsive up to about 50,000hz is to correct phasing problems at lower frequencies caused by listening off axis. since this isnt an issue in club - you can forget about that one.