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| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
I want to preface this by stating that my roommate is Catholic. I have been living with him for two years. He's studying to enter the seminary at WSU next year. I, personally, went to a private Catholic school for two years (sixth and seventh grade). I know more about the Catholic faith than most people who aren't Catholic, so if Catholics are reading this and want to argue any of the following points, be my guest. In fact, I hope someone who is Catholic replies. It will just drive my points home. |
I'm not a Catholic per se - I'm culturally Catholic (grown up in a Catholic family), but I'm not religiously Christian, for that matter, being under conversion to Buddhism. Therefore, I seek neutrality towards Christianity, for reasons that might not be interesting to you.
Anyway, you want to debate, you said. Fine, I'm game.
| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
For starters, the Schiavo case has gone too far. The fucking woman is dying. She's a borderline vegetable, and cannot survive unless there is a feeding tube present. Guess what? Feeding tubes aren't mentioned in the Bible, and Schiavo cannot feed herself. Therefore, it is not a fucking suicide. I don't care what the man in the funny hat says about it. I don't care what your priest says about it. If you cannot survive without the assistance of someone else, you are allowed to die. It's nature, not intent, that is killing you. Schiavo should have died years ago. Her sick fucks for parents decided to keep her alive in an atrocious state simply so that they can delay the inevitable pain that will come along with their daughter's passing. |
The reason why you're so mad at the Christian view is probably because you seem to be as extreme in your position as they are. Keep in mind that it's your belief that she's allowed to die. You're as limited as any human being, so you can't place yourself as the owner of the truth. I do agree with you that keeping her alive is cruel but certainly, our opinion on that is, to say the least, superfluous.
| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Another thing that has been bugging the shit out of me is the fact that Catholics have so much to say about abortion in the United States. The funny thing is, some of the most outspoken people on the issue are male. Guess what? If you don't have a uterus, shut the fuck up. You don't know shit about having children. You don't know shit about what's good for a woman's physical and/or psychological health. What if the woman knows she won't survive pregnancy? What if she was the victim of a rape? What if there's a chance that the kid is going to be born with some horrible affliction that will make theirs a life of pain and misery? Huh? What then? I'll tell you what, at least according to the church: have the kid, anyway, because it's wrong to have an abortion. The Bible and the man in the funny hat say so. |
Easy now. First of all, the first point doesn't follow any sense of logic, in fact, it is an ad hominem type of fallacy. Second of all, sure women have the right to do what they feel better for their body. But, until the last time I've checked, I'm not part of my mother, thankfully.
Finally, if you support abortion, that's once again a belief of yours. If the majority (or most powerful people) in your country disagree with you, well, tough luck.
| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Lastly, the issue of gay marriage comes to mind. Who gives a fuck if two men or two women want to get married? It's not about your fucking Bible. Most of them could give a shit what it says. It has nothing to do with a religious union. It has to do with the fact that people get fucked in the ass for health, education, and financial benefits when they can't be legally married. Your religious views on the issue are not important. It's about legality. We're all high and mighty about being an accepting nation that embraces diversity, and yet we go and fuck people over when they try to make use of the institutions that we have had in place for centuries. |
Even though I do support gay union as well, I cannot demand a similar opinion from those who believe it's wrong because they're allowed to have an opinion as well. Like I said before, if they happen to rule your country, remember life is not the way we want anyway.
| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
I'm so sick and tired of people refusing to think for themselves. Go fuck yourself if you live by what is written in a book. The Bible is thousands of years old. It is not an authoritative source on every possible situation that could ever come up. Neither is an 80 year old man who can barely stand up on his own or even lift his head. (I often wonder who's wiping his ass for him, personally.) You need to wake up and realize that other people don't give a fuck about what your church says regarding something in which you're involved. This is why we have a separation between church and state. This is why we have personal freedoms. Quit trying to be little Hitlers. It's not going to work, and you're just going to get yourselves knocked the fuck out one day when you spout your bullshit in front of the wrong person.
Lights out. Cut the cord. I need a fucking drink. |
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster." 
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
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Argh, please stop this! You post this in every religious thread, yet you're the first to be paranoid about Islams. Let us have fun too!
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