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Originally posted by chrismack Nope. Seems some people were too cracked out to know which day of the week it was. Such a shame, all those brain cells just going to waste.

I agree. What did you guys do Saturday...? You should have come out to Picotto, eh?

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Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 Well being from NJ/NY for us NYTA's there's nothing better then knowing that in the middle of March we are gonna shovel out of the snow and cold and head to the warm weather, beaches, and be able to get our fill of kick ass beats. I say keep it in Miami.....in reality it isn't that bad. NYC....water $10 a bottle, drinks forget it, and cabs hold on for dear life, I think everyone just needs to look at the whole picture, there's no Nikki Beach in vegas and WAY to many tourists would want to pop there heads in to the clubs to see what's going on. IMO

Def +1

A couple things:

First: I love Miami. I love the beach. I love the bars. I am not suggesting that Miami as a party destination needs to be disrespected.

However, I fly into Miami to attend WMC. I register as a delegate and attend what is intended to be an industry event. The whole purpose of this is to showcase EDM to people who make, produce and otherwise earn their loving from the scene.

When these showcases are shut down by authorities who don't seem to care about the millions of $ and prestige it brings in, That affects me personally - and the reason why I attend the event (and quite frankly why the event occurs at all.)

I understand that some people are "tourists" who just want to party.. I think that's great and probably makes for a better week. But, if we lose the original goal, fewer parties will take place, the industry guys and their money will slowly stop coming, and by necessity, it will move somewhere else - either by choice or circumstance.

Miami is great, but if they can't or won't stand up for the conference side of WMC - and the reason why they are gettign this windfall of tourist bucks, then it's time to move.

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Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 Well being from NJ/NY for us NYTA's there's nothing better then knowing that in the middle of March we are gonna shovel out of the snow and cold and head to the warm weather, beaches, and be able to get our fill of kick ass beats. I say keep it in Miami.....in reality it isn't that bad. NYC....water $10 a bottle, drinks forget it, and cabs hold on for dear life, I think everyone just needs to look at the whole picture, there's no Nikki Beach in vegas and WAY to many tourists would want to pop there heads in to the clubs to see what's going on. IMO

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u know we'll all be BACK next year, grl... esp. for Nikki Beach

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your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go

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Originally posted by Vegas your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go

I second that.

IMO, WMC/Ultra was bigger and better this year than ever before. People love coming to Miami for the conference. And the Wyndham? WMC owns the hotel that week. The price wasn’t bad considering what other hotels charge.

The problem with people complaining was a bit out of hand though. The RA pool party got shut down during the day. Now that’s going a bit far considering the law allows noise until 11 PM. I wonder if there was something else behind that…

Conspiracy theories aside, in spite of the problems, the conference went on and will continue to do so in the years to come.

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Originally posted by Vegas your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go

Keep in mind that you’re not just dealing with the City of Miami. There are over 30 Municipalities in Dade County. That means the City of Miami deals with Downtown but the City of Miami Beach governs South Beach.

The residents of Miami Beach are not WMC-friendly. But I would imagine it is the result of other events during the year that bring trouble such as Source Awards where I believe there are several arrests every year.

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Originally posted by GloryHole Definitely couldn't agree more, although I do like Miami - it's just not friendly to the WMC scene. I came down here yesterday for the weekend and to enjoy being with friends who were attending the conference but I've never seen such shoddy reception for people who've planned for this a long time and have $$ to spend. I'm thinking Atlanta or NYC for a new venue. Sure beats the fascist police state atmosphere you get here.

Like it or not, Miami is pretty much a perfect location for this kind of event in March...

Weather is perfect, people are generally friendly and hot , lots of places to party, easy to get to from many places in USA and world. Esp. for Europeans that come over, it is still too early for Meditranian Summer... It is also close to Europe and South America. Relatively short flights from most EDM spots around the world. You have to remember that huge % of people come from Europe and even larger % of industry people come from there.


NYC is 1. too cold. 2. even more anal police than Miami-Dade. WMC, i believe started in NYC and it didn't last too long... And believe me, i live hell of a lot closer to NYC than Miami

Vegas is also not as good. It is far too small of city, it can still be VERY cold in Nevada in March(desert temps at night drop to 40s and lower), no beaches, not many clubs either. And it is god knows where. The only place close to it is LA. Eurpope is 2-3 leg 20 hour flights.... You think there will be good attendance?

Problem with Miami is 20 years... whenever something runs this long, there will be issues that get worse over years....

But frankly, Miami is one of the most friendly EDM places in USA... (East Coast anyway)

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Originally posted by mdamon7278 Next year, Ultra is gonna be 170 DJ's, half hour sets, just not the same anymore, just have the parties and thats good

says who?? why in their right minds would they even book 1/2 hour sets (when they're already short enought) for DJ's they're shelling shitloads of money out for, only to squeeze in more acts? that's just not logical.

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