Hehehe but if you read the top of my post it said for those first timers, I don't think anyone wants to look down there and be suprised like I was, very disturbing :P

And thanks for the exact amount of water I can never remember.

guys how reliable is 5-htp ? can you take it even if you don't pop ?

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Originally posted by fastmp3 guys how reliable is 5-htp ? can you take it even if you don't pop ?

You could get it at any body building store.
It originaly for body builders or people working out to get that deep night sleep that makes u wake up nice and refreshed in the morning. The kind of sleep that makes u wonder what just happend when u wake up.
Like mmx said, it helps with seratonin regeneration.

Anyhow, if u take it during the day it puts u in a more happy mood.

cuz i'm really interested in it, but it's banned in some countries apparently

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when you take it by the nose you feel better

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Originally posted by Verm when you take it by the nose you feel better

LOL.

If anyone ever needs 5htp ask me cause I have a bottle from my crackhead days. Honestly I don't suggest doing any pills at all cause all it takes is 1 and ur hooked. Oh and all the shit about dieing is BS TRUST ME because if it was true id be 1 dead funker right now.

putting it into your ass causes the most effects....not that I tried it tho.....

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i've heard you can get the best effect if you shove it up your ass can anyone confirm ? this might interest a lot of you

btw i just came back from ferry, i'm destroyed

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Originally posted by fastmp3 cuz i'm really interested in it, but it's banned in some countries apparently

5htp is actually a substance found in many kinds of foods. For example, turkey, eggs etc.

the pill is just a concentrated for of this. What it basicly does is break down in your system into a natural catalist for the neurotransmitter. Serotonin. so basicly. help you get serotonin faster.

why do ppl use it. because it makes you sleepy when you first take it. and when it breaks down to make serotonin, keeps you in good mood

perfectly safe

psy-trancer, i once had a very good paper (or movie? can't remember) regarding the economics of the pills market (X = pills), but I can't remember where to find it

Basicly;
The newest the brand is, the better quality it will be.

Pills sales can't be pushed by a marketing campaign. It all about getting the trust of the vendors (pushers) and the trust of the street (users). The first batches of drugs have to be pure or near-pure because that's how the name of the pills will be known and dissociated from all the other. The makers wants the street to name their brand next time they see their pushers. So, when they are creating a new brand (new name, size, color, etc), they need the street to be crazy about it so that way they'll get the marketing they want from mouth-to-ear. Next, the pill is well-known. People knows the name. People are asking for it.

Street is going crazy about your brand. The mouth-to-ear is so much powerful that it's time for improving profits. They don't need to push their sales anymore. Never forget that this is all about profits. The makers arent a bunch of fundamentaly rave-fan hippies trying to do so good in society by making pills.

Increasing profits is very simple. Diminuate the components that costs more. MDMA costs more. Cafeine costs less. Ephedrine costs less. The swap will be easy to do, especially when there's no way to really quantifiate the high you're getting. They know that their brand will die anyway in a mid-term period, so they just want to cash in profits.

That's why the quality is always getting worse, function of time, which is function of popularity.

It's very frequent to find 50% cafeine - 50% ephedrine pills on the market, sold as speed+bit of mdma. Always 1~2 years old brands.


As for the argument, sometime heard, that pills could be cut with cocaine sometimes, this cant be true, as explained above, since gross cocaine costs more than gross mdma.

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Originally posted by RazerYokes psy-trancer, i once had a very good paper (or movie? can't remember) regarding the economics of the pills market (X = pills), but I can't remember where to find it Basicly; The newest the brand is, the better quality it will be. Pills sales can't be pushed by a marketing campaign. It all about getting the trust of the vendors (pushers) and the trust of the street (users). The first batches of drugs have to be pure or near-pure because that's how the name of the pills will be known and dissociated from all the other. The makers wants the street to name their brand next time they see their pushers. So, when they are creating a new brand (new name, size, color, etc), they need the street to be crazy about it so that way they'll get the marketing they want from mouth-to-ear. Next, the pill is well-known. People knows the name. People are asking for it. Street is going crazy about your brand. The mouth-to-ear is so much powerful that it's time for improving profits. They don't need to push their sales anymore. Never forget that this is all about profits. The makers arent a bunch of fundamentaly rave-fan hippies trying to do so good in society by making pills. Increasing profits is very simple. Diminuate the components that costs more. MDMA costs more. Cafeine costs less. Ephedrine costs less. The swap will be easy to do, especially when there's no way to really quantifiate the high you're getting. They know that their brand will die anyway in a mid-term period, so they just want to cash in profits. That's why the quality is always getting worse, function of time, which is function of popularity. It's very frequent to find 50% cafeine - 50% ephedrine pills on the market, sold as speed+bit of mdma. Always 1~2 years old brands. As for the argument, sometime heard, that pills could be cut with cocaine sometimes, this cant be true, as explained above, since gross cocaine costs more than gross mdma.

perfectly said

so to make sure what you're getting, try and get it from someone reliable. example i used to get it from someone that was doing it himself
also, get something new, never get the same pill you got two months ago, its no longer the same batch, its now crap.

and rumour of heroine and cocaine in it, what a load of crap.
cocaine can cost what 70 a gram, e cost like 10-15 a pill.

e is very cheap to make. where as cocaine is expensive, so just purely from and economics point of view it make no sence for a dealer to do this

from a highness point of view. now i've never done coke. but from what i know you get a rush for like 20 - 30 mins, then its like a low, so you have to take more, and so on and so on

e on the other hand, you take a smaller amount, and you're messed for a good 4hours high 2 -3 hours messed after

so not exactly something good to put in there.
makes no sence