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3xx3r7
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: with your mom

quote:
Originally posted by Legato
Stan, I don't know where your animosity is coming from. First of all, I complimented you in the my first thread. Second of all, you restated half of what I said in your first paragraph. Third of all, I addressed the age issue, which is what affects you, mostly. Additionally, if you speak with Chris, I'm sure that he'll agree with most everything that I said here. I know Chris, and I'm sure that he feels himself fortunate to have something steady in this town that doesn't require support from a local scene that only exists in cliques.


Actually, you would be surprised. Chris and I have a lot more common opinion-wise. We did not discuss the age issue; however, there are many people who are in the 18-20 range and who are eager to attend such events.

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If you think Florida breaks and DnB are all that's going on around here, you are not paying attention. There are two DnB nights in this whole town, and Florida breaks are only really played in two venues consistently in downtown (Alpha and Thee Grotto), and they don't even play "Florida" breaks, most nights (a lot of progressive breaks and nu skool breaks). The dominant genre being played in this town is house music (tech, tribal, funky, progressive... you name it), and it's being played everywhere. If you aren't aware, then you aren't paying attention, and that's no one's fault but your own. If you're feeling angsty toward club owners for having rules about 21+, well man, that's a very very small part of the problem. They have legal obligations that I'm sure you don't understand that make their lives a lot easier if they only allow 21+ patrons (but we have had this discussion before, although your argument doesn't reflect that you've ever heard a word that I said).


Oh I am aware of those events, I go to Sceneorlando everytime. However, one thing is to be aware of those events, another thing is to be able to attend them. BTW, I tried applying for the show on their radio, for some reason Roman decided to be all smartass with me, especially, when I was giving details about myself. He said that he'll set up a server and contact me later. Still waiting for the response.

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I'm not just blaming TA here... don't misunderstand. But if you think that anyone other than fans are responsible for getting something going again in Orlando, you are way off base and haven't been around long enough to know what you're talking about. I'm sorry to call you out like this, but you have taken a very immature stance to a very valid argument. I thought you had your head screwed on a little straighter than that.


Maybe I exagarrated the whole age issue. There is not enough of us, even if we tried to come up and do something. Hip-hop and top-40 still brings more money in this town. One of the reasons why Blue Room switched its format. I'll ignore your last sentence.

You do have valid points too, and I guess I was too biased when I said those things. However, saying that it is a primarily fault of fans is wrong.

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On a more positive note, I'm really happy that things are going well for you at Flow. That's awesome! One question though... do you really think that Flow caters to the local EDM scene at all? They have more restrictions for entry than any other venue in town. They represent the very thing that you're angry about in your argument.


Thanks, I do what I can, but I can only do this much. Based on my observations, people liked what I've played from the beginning to the end. Not all is lost, I hope. I guess your right about them being strict and all. Maybe it is because I get in there anyway, therefore I did not bash them at all.

Also, not everyone knows about sceneorlando. This site needs to be promoted as much as possible. Honestly, I found it by chance.


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mdamon7278
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Actually, you would be surprised. Chris and I have a lot more common opinion-wise. We did not discuss the age issue; however, there are many people who are in the 18-20 range and who are eager to attend such events.



Oh I am aware of those events, I go to Sceneorlando everytime. However, one thing is to be aware of those events, another thing is to be able to attend them. BTW, I tried applying for the show on their radio, for some reason Roman decided to be all smartass with me, especially, when I was giving details about myself. He said that he'll set up a server and contact me later. Still waiting for the response.



Maybe I exagarrated the whole age issue. There is not enough of us, even if we tried to come up and do something. Hip-hop and top-40 still brings more money in this town. One of the reasons why Blue Room switched its format. I'll ignore your last sentence.

You do have valid points too, and I guess I was too biased when I said those things. However, saying that it is a primarily fault of fans is wrong.



Thanks, I do what I can, but I can only do this much. Based on my observations, people liked what I've played from the beginning to the end. Not all is lost, I hope. I guess your right about them being strict and all. Maybe it is because I get in there anyway, therefore I did not bash them at all.

Also, not everyone knows about sceneorlando. This site needs to be promoted as much as possible. Honestly, I found it by chance.



Whatever happen to Icon, that was a good club


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fmaretti
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Florida, USA

quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
Whatever happen to Icon, that was a good club


I agree, they used to get good people there but have not done it in a long time.

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3xx3r7
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quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
Whatever happen to Icon, that was a good club


Yep, add it to the same list where Blue Room is now.


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DawnTreader
Back from the dead...



Registered: Oct 2004
Location: ATL

Orlando sucks. Period.

Get in your car and drive to Miami.

Last edited by DawnTreader on Apr-19-2005 at 17:43

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kelly923
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: gainesville, fl

so yeah danny howells...

we saw andy hughes there and he remembered us from when we saw him last thurs in gainesville


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orionthought
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Tampa, FL

everybody has their own opinion on how the scene can grow in certain places. when i was in orlando, i was always at the dnb nights at alpha, the shows at icon and red square and even went to support some friends at a bar called delaney's for their small but good dnb nights. i really don't think any of us should complain though cuz it could be worse. each of us will do what we can in order to make the scene better but we shouldn't depend on other people in order for that to happen. be optimistic, do what you can and don't worry so much cuz it'll all fall into place. the scene now is a lot better than it was a couple of years ago and can only go up. no more negativity is the way to be<------------cheesy. but seriously just have fun with it cuz that's what this music is about in the first place. btw, if some of you are really into getting involved with trying to play some nights or just supporting your genre, stop by the drop shop when you can and talk to the guys there. that's how a lot of my friend's nights got started and they are really cool people too. the ones i know, they know what's up.

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Legato
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Orlando, FL

I don't want to quote b/c we've discussed quite a lot.

Regarding Roman:

He's a really nice guy... I'm sorry you got a bad impression. I'll check with them to see what's going on.


Regarding you (Stan) and Flow:

Man, wherever we can get in to turn people on to EDM... all the better. I hope that place gets a little less trendy... it has potential. Kudos to you for landing that and to Chris for giving you the opportunity.


Regarding pointing fingers:

I probably should have been more positive in my wording. The point isn't whose fault it is that the scene in Orlando is the way that it is. That was a bunch of politics, unfortunately. However, fixing a scene in ruins is up to us, the fans, the djs and the promoters. You can't expect a businessman who owns a club to give a shit about the scene when he/she can make money off of something else (like hip hop)much more easily. We have to create the reason for them to give EDM a chance, and my point was that this is our responsibility. SceneOrlando is working on that effort right now, and we're all working on it very hard over there. Anyone who is active in EDM downtown has an opportunity to know about SceneOrlando. They (we) support everyone that they can and have really just kick-started efforts to pull in more local involvement. They're trying to get the word out about the site using all appropriate avenues. Any help from you or anyone else here is greatly appreciated. The board is well-organized, very positive and a lot of fun.


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fmaretti
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Location: Florida, USA

so yeah danny howells...

He rocked the place!

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orionthought
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danny lit it up. good times

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Legato
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Orlando, FL

quote:
Originally posted by orionthought
everybody has their own opinion on how the scene can grow in certain places. when i was in orlando, i was always at the dnb nights at alpha, the shows at icon and red square and even went to support some friends at a bar called delaney's for their small but good dnb nights. i really don't think any of us should complain though cuz it could be worse. each of us will do what we can in order to make the scene better but we shouldn't depend on other people in order for that to happen. be optimistic, do what you can and don't worry so much cuz it'll all fall into place. the scene now is a lot better than it was a couple of years ago and can only go up. no more negativity is the way to be<------------cheesy. but seriously just have fun with it cuz that's what this music is about in the first place. btw, if some of you are really into getting involved with trying to play some nights or just supporting your genre, stop by the drop shop when you can and talk to the guys there. that's how a lot of my friend's nights got started and they are really cool people too. the ones i know, they know what's up.


I mostly agree with this... except the scene won't just "happen". People who care about it have to make a serious effort to cultivate it. Positivity IS the key, I agree. I agree with pretty much everything else you said here, especially the Drop Shop guys. They've been around forever and are all about keeping things alive here.


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Legato
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Sorry I jacked your thread... Danny Howells rocks!


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