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Originally posted by Axolotyl Who cares what you use though? If the tracks good, its good, if its its shit then nothing will change that. Is it really going to make that much difference if your pads are mad from 1 osc on po53 or 18 oscillators on your virus Ti?

couldn't have said it better myself

Remmember this.

Liam stated he never used reason to make the song only to lay ideas he said he doesnt like softsynths end of story they sound flat and cheap.After puting down ideas he went to a studio with real gear.

The crystalmethod while doing a reason demo.

They were getting payed to say the goods yet still admited it sucked and they try not to use it too much.

if you cant see the diffrence between hardware and software you gotta clean out ya ears.

I use flstudio right now and vst's and as for cracked vst's being wrong.

Let me ask you this who in there right mind would pay 400 bucks for a program that when i scratch or lose cd key your moneys out the window.

and did i mention its software.Im sorry but id rather pay for hardware.

I payed for my FLSTUDIO becuase thats a necessity and worth every penny.

But as for a softsynth i get free ones from kvr.

Who da fuk is Liam? The prodigy guy?

Man, there are a ton of producers in any genre that swear by software and for the record, I think Crystal Method suck dogs balls =) Who gives a shit what they think..

Dismissing software because its on a CD (which you can back up and write down the cd key somewhere) is pretty weak. Software has its weaknesses, but that aint one of them. So you think we should all use cracked software and the magical VST fairy will continue to produce high quality synths for the cost of what? Dude... WTF??

I agree there is sound quality differences between hardware and software, but software still has its place. Show me a hardware synth that has the flexibility of Reaktor?! And what about Csound? Non realtime sound rendering with basically unlimited complexity. You can't do that sort of stuff on hardware. Ganular synthesis? Any hardware granular synths out there?? Hmm.... no

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Originally posted by Traiden I have been a producer of trance music for over 3 years now. When I just began I used the studio of a friend of mine, but I find producing using just software a lot easier and more fun to do. My friend says that real producers don't use software, but I think this is not entirely true. I know for instance that Rank 1 preferes software too. Are there more producers using just software?

Koris and I only use Software... and sometimes a hardware synth (but rarely). I don't think we can tell that you're "a real producer" because you use hardware. It's a non-sense, it doesn't depend of the stuff you have but of your imagination and your experience.

The sound of the VSt is maybe not the same as the hardware synths, but if you're a good producer you can do a good thing with almost every sound you have.

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Originally posted by Signal2005 if you cant see the diffrence between hardware and software you gotta clean out ya ears.

So if your ears are clean, you can see better??

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Originally posted by Signal2005 if you cant see the diffrence between hardware and software you gotta clean out ya ears.

You can hear a difference. But can you really hear a difference between a Hardware Novation Synth with bunch of effects on it and a V-Station with bunch of effects too?

I think you can hear a difference in some cases, for example, I never heard a soft synth sounding like the JP-8000. But sometime the hardware synths doesn't sounds as clean as a VST... It could be good, but sometimes the sound is more ugly with hardware synths. Is it a good thing? I'm not sure of that.

I think sometimes it's just a reaction of people who bought a lot of hardware synths and who are saying now: "damn! I spent a lot of money for hardware and now I can have synths on my Computer for a cheapest price! OK: This should say that my hardware synths are better". (I'm not sure about that...).

So why do most of the producers (in every music style) sell their synths to have a computer-based studio? This just confirm that some VSTs are as good as the original and most of the time offers more possibility than hardware.

After that... it's a question of choice.

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There is one simple answer to this question:
What is a producer?

Is it someone who PRODUCES tracks?
Or is it someone who PRODUCES tracks with hardware?

In my opinion: this first one.
You can also be a producer if you slack your dick on drums, record that and use it as percussion in your track


what i said before:
"It's not WHAT you use, it's HOW you use it"

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Exactly!

And the thing is... if it sounds good with software... where's the problem?

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Well, this debate is getting heated, I think both have pros and cons. I for one though, would never have been able to afford to get invovled with dance music production without the advent of soft synths. To build a decent size set up with hardware costs an arm and a leg!!!

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Originally posted by DjMorpheus You can also be a producer if you slack your dick on drums, record that and use it as percussion in your track

lol...

Personally software isnt that bad as i do use it but it cant hurt to have a cheap hardware synth lying around like the alesis ion or micron microkorg or used ms2000 and jp8000.

just to have one lying around helps i had once a yamaha djx loli know cheap toy some say but when u got in depth with it there was amazing things one could do.

i made so many great sounds with it it felt hands on it was nice.

i hate software becuase when i look at my screen i feel somewhat dissapointed it doesnt feel as hands on as hardware does i have a midi controller.

but it still doesnt motivate me to do much.It did in the beggining.But now i feel some limitations and aggravation when ur running 6 quality vst's thru your sequencing software and u get that popping crackling damn annoying.

i know when i get my micron friday i can just run it line and get high quality saved to wav files and work from there.

and my little homemade studio will look preety lol.

in my style hardware helps.With trance softsynth do work on most occasions.I produce more of a breakbeat style than trance.

i like heavy warm grooves and i try and try to get it from software but it feels sum what flat.I know if ur good with software u can do more but like i said before i dont feel motivation from my computer screen.

What i ussualy do for insperation is close my eyes on my midi controller and picture myself playing live so i dont screw up when i record my samples.

i think hardware will take me one step further.

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Originally posted by DJule You can hear a difference. But can you really hear a difference between a Hardware Novation Synth with bunch of effects on it and a V-Station with bunch of effects too?

Novation is one company that have got their VST's very close to their harware.. in fact.. most people cant tell a Bass station Keyboard apart from its VST version..

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Originally posted by DjMorpheus You can also be a producer if you slack your dick on drums, record that and use it as percussion in your track

YAY!! im a producer!