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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ontarians are sheep

quote:
Originally posted by malek
your choices are very limited... Denmark ?


Seriously, i think jay would enjoy denmark! nice liberal country (liberal in the sense of liberal laws "dont ban/illegalize anything that doesnt hurt anyone else"), only bad thing is their high taxes and weird sounding language and their many smokers! Or holland, but that too weird langauge and high taxes! sweden is cool too, but should be more liberal still imo (esp alcohol policies)... or a country like spain or italy, but perhaps they would be too laid back? and still somewhat conservative...

lol @ me trying to find a country for jay

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

i dont mind paying taxes as long as they arent wasted on bullshit and as long as i am free to live how i choose.


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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

quote:
Originally posted by Jer.
Jay: Although I applaud your patriotism, this is hardly 'rewarding' corruption.


The Lieberals made money by using government mechanisms... so allowing to stay in government IS rewarding corruption.


quote:

I'd still trust the Liberals after this, just because they're coming clean about the whole debacle.


You're suffering from a form of Stockholm Syndrome.


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We've become a nation of enablers
By Lorrie Goldstein

The longer the federal Liberals stay in power, the more they resemble an abusive husband and father lording it over his family. With the family being the rest of us.

Consider the similarities, regardless of whether Jean Chretien, or now, Paul Martin, happens to be in charge:


# The first thing an abuser typically does in order to gain control of his wife and children is to take over the finances of the family and cut them off from any outside influences.

Think of the usurious taxation levels the Liberals have imposed on us, which discourage entrepreneurship, independence and private initiative.


# In order to reinforce his dominance over his family, the abuser will take away the money his wife or kids have earned and refuse to tell them what he plans to do with it.

Think of all those Liberal "foundations" which contain billions of our tax dollars, while we have no way of knowing how the money is being spent, or even if it's being spent.


# Abusers are arbitrary and heartless toward family members and will, to display their power, deny them even the most basic needs, such as money for the week's groceries.

Think about how our health care system is falling apart, with Canadians unable to obtain timely medical tests or surgeries, while the Liberals boast about achieving record surpluses with OUR money.


# An abuser, simply to lord it over his family and prove that he can do it, will steal cash from family members and if caught, refuse to admit it or even make jokes about it.

Think of AdScam.


# In order to secure his grip on power over his family, an abuser will often divide family members against one another by arbitrarily favouring one member over another.

Think of asymmetrical federalism. Think of special deals for some provinces and not for others -- such as Ontario -- to help pay for the costs of immigration. Think of arbitrarily changing the rules governing equalization payments without even consulting the provinces that will have to pay for it.


# As part of his strategy to dominate his family, an abuser will often charge other family members with incompetence, without ever admitting to any incompetence of his own.

Think of the federal gun registry.


# An abuser tolerates no questioning of his decisions from the rest of the family and will humiliate, insult and intimidate them if they dare to disagree with his iron-fisted rule.

Think of how the Liberals have portrayed Canadians who oppose same-sex marriage -- who make up anywhere from one-half to two-thirds of the population, depending on which poll you believe -- as bigots, simply for supporting a position that most of them supported just a few years ago.

Gratuitous insults


# In order to cover up his own blatant insecurities, an abuser will often gratuitously insult and put down others.

Think of the Liberals' attitude toward the United States.


Clearly, then, Canadian taxpayers are in an abusive relationship with the federal Liberals.

But if that says something about them, what does it say about us?

Typically, in abused families, those being abused eventually become so beaten down that they come to believe there is no alternative to their predicament. They often develop what is known as Stockholm syndrome, in which they come to identify with their abuser.

All of which helps to explain present national voting patterns in Canada which keep returning the Liberals to power, particularly among Ontario voters, who overwhelmingly vote Liberal no matter how much the Liberals abuse and ignore them once they are safely back in office.

All of which leads to the inevitable conclusion that if the Liberals are the abusers, then Canadian voters -- particularly those of us in Ontario -- are their enablers.

Clearly, we need help.


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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i dont mind paying taxes as long as they arent wasted on bullshit and as long as i am free to live how i choose.


True, denmark has like 50% taxes, but they are good at taking care of their money (better than most countries), and their economy is very sound. So thats a good choice both economically and living wise.

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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

I don't know you if you guys heard about this in ROC.

But a new scandal is emmerging...

The federal govt was sending for years supplies, gadgets and games directly to schools in Quebec without passing by the minister of education.

Those freebies were having canadian flags all over them and such. Much like the distribution of flags and other sponsorship "deals".

People were furious on the radio stations today! And furious is a small word and for a good reason:

1-Millions were spent for these gadgets and other useless things.

2-These millions were spent while the province (and others too of course) have been starving for cash to keep their public schooling system alive!

3-(Maybe the thing that angered everyone the most) Get them while they're young, sell them Canada! Brainwash them!

4-Once again the Federal is trying to trespass a provincial jurisdiction by going directly to schools! Eduction is known in Canada as the most sacred of provincial competences.

5-And the funniest, Canada still has an astounding 530B$+ of debt, and Ottawa still find ways to throw our cash like that!


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malek
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... I think Jayx will blow a fuse or something over this...


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

We already know that the Liberals are extremely corrupt and wasteful. What pisses me off are the (primarily) ontarians who vote for them anyways.


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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

the more i'm reading about this the more i'm asking myself what the hell is wrong with this political clique.

Aparently, those items landed to children as young as in kindergardens!

The Bloc has been bitching about it in 2003 but no one listened.


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

these guys do it because they know they can get away with it. And the latest poll results are proof of that.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

I'm trying to find the story on some english news site but I can't

another ploy to hide the truth


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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
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english media are heavily liberal biased. Thats half the problem.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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RobbyG.
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto

What we need is a belevolent dictator


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