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Shakka
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush opposes UK Africa plan (aka Bush is a twat)

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How is that possible...you guys elected bush as your President...TWICE!


On the recent revelation that Kerry had slightly worse grades than Bush at Yale....

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush opposes UK Africa plan (aka Bush is a twat)

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On the recent revelation that Kerry had slightly worse grades than Bush at Yale....

How recent? Before or after the election?


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How recent? Before or after the election?


Yesterday.

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C Man in the Navy

By JAMES TARANTO
June 8, 2005; Page A14

On Jan. 30, John Kerry told NBC's Tim Russert that he would release his full military records to the public, something he had refused to do during last year's campaign. It took 128 days, but yesterday the Boston Globe reported that he had done so. The records revealed what many of us had suspected: Mr. Kerry served in Vietnam. But according to the Globe, "the lack of any substantive new material about Kerry's military career in the documents raises the question of why Kerry refused for so long to waive privacy restrictions."

A second Globe story, however, answered that question. Included in Mr. Kerry's military files were his transcripts from Yale, which were part of his application for officer training. Mr. Kerry, it turns out, had a 76 average for his years at Yale -- the equivalent of a C and one point below George W. Bush's 77 average. Mr. Kerry had a difficult freshman year, scoring four D's, though he did manage a C in French.
* * *

So Mr. Kerry was almost as distinguished a scholar as the schoolmate who went on to become president of the United States. That doesn't seem so bad -- but for candidate Kerry, it would have been devastating. After all, much of Mr. Kerry's appeal, such as it was, rested on intellectual snobbery. His supporters described him, in the words of a March 2004 New York Times report, as "an intellectual who grasps the subtleties of issues, inhabits their nuances and revels in the deliberative process." In this view, Mr. Kerry's nose for nuance contrasted favorably with Mr. Bush's simplisme.

But what if Mr. Kerry simply lacked the ability to express himself clearly? Consider his answer when asked in a September 2003 debate to reconcile his vote for Iraq's liberation with his subsequent opposition: "The vote is the vote. I voted to authorize. It was the right vote, and the reason I mentioned the threat is that we gave the -- we had to give life to the threat. If there wasn't a legitimate threat, Saddam Hussein was not going to allow inspectors in. Now, let me make two points if I may. . . ."

He went on in this vein for 248 words, and only someone with a superior intellect and too much time on his hands could possibly have made sense of his answer. "People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," IQ expert Linda Gottfredson told the Times' John Tierney last year. The revelation that Mr. Kerry was no better a student than Mr. Bush suggests that this is just what happened.

Mr. Kerry's appeal to intellectual vanity was in any case a politically dubious one. The last egghead to win the White House was Woodrow Wilson, and he was a genuinely accomplished scholar. In 1956, a supporter is said to have told Adlai Stevenson, "You have the support of every thinking person." He replied: "That's not enough. I need a majority."

Still, let's not sell Mr. Kerry short. He is, after all, a United States senator -- which isn't bad for a C student. At least no one will ever again call him an underachiever.


From today's WSJ...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush opposes UK Africa plan (aka Bush is a twat)

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How recent? Before or after the election?


Yes, indeed, Shakka's argument would tesitfy to the argument that US Voters are more adapt to pick the smarter president.

Then again nobody running for President is going to be that smart...


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Right because the proposal is to use IMF gold as a means to reduce debt which was has always been rejected by the US for reasons outlined by my link. If you want debt relief use the World Bank imo.

My point was that BadBadNeil keeps insisting we can achieve this without America which we cant (just like we cant improve environmental situation unless USA plays ball over Kyoto) Its a globalised world and everything is interlinked. You cant play the isolationsist over third world misfortune and then play interventionalist when it suits your views! The neocons want to mould the world into the American image. The neocons criticised previous policies of not toppling Saddam or doing business with dictators and their number one foreign policy principle is that where possible, the US should be acting to transform regimes into liberal democracies...well how is this for a great oppertunity to do just that?! They criticised the policy of allowing dictators do what they want to their populations and claimed this led to 9/11...well who's to say something just as nasty wont emerge out of the slums and shanty towns of Africa?

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On the recent revelation that Kerry had slightly worse grades than Bush at Yale....

My flat mate has better A-Level grades than me but she is thick as pig shit and it would not be possible for her to even comprehend how much more intelligent I am!

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Well if Bush is a "fucking cnut" its not because he doesn't send millions of dollars in aid to Africa:


"[Bush] pledges approximately $674 million of additional resources by the United States [sic] to respond to humanitarian emergencies in Africa":
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-brea...60845-1997r.htm


Looks like someone else looks like a fucking cnut now. Eh Georgey?!



I'll tell ya who's a **** shall I?!

Anyway, America always comes out lookin good for giving away foreign aid until you realise most of it goes to an advanced western country!

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I'll tell ya who's a **** shall I?!

Anyway, America always comes out lookin good for giving away foreign aid until you realise most of it goes to an advanced western country!


Hey Egypt is not that advanced


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush opposes UK Africa plan (aka Bush is a twat)

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Hey Egypt is not that advanced

Saudi Arabia?

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