thanx mate

its all extremely tedious anyway

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Originally posted by Ste thats dabatable: most trance these days doesnt bring anything fresh to trance, still trance.... trance doesnt need to become some "intelligent new genre" like it is trying to be (a la prog trance, markus ****z, armin van bordem. etc), trance needs to be fun and stop taking itself so seriously. And trance producers need to using the same sounds and even melodies for 50 years. there is even about 1000000 new 200x reamkes eevry year now and and it is fucking crap. whne somebody said ocalla's tunes sound like askew well how can you deny that, ive heard some of his recent stuff and yes it does, does that warrant somebody being called names or whatever for stating the truth? and we all know askew just rips off pvds kicks and bass etc. maybe if you stop being blinding by the big name / popular sound bollocks in the industry, take a step back and take an objective view you may see there is a fuckload of bullshit going on (im not saying this refers to JoC in question, just the way this thread has progressed) and this bullshit is making people money, and as long and shit makespeople money people continue to make crap music, stifling (sp) creativity and trance as we know it remains in some stale rejected toilet. [/rant]

im not gonna argue that the big trance artists dont think its all about the money these days i just think its ridiculously nieve to think that this wasnt the case back in the old days too. yes there are hundreds of remakes nowadays but back in the summer of 99 the big producers solely produced tracks that they knew would get in the charts. It was all bordering on cheese, now i am not saying that it wasnt fucking good music but the fact was that it really wasnt any different then to now. The only difference is that an awful lot of people use the supposed "downfall of trance" these days as some sort of cover up for the plain simple reason they have moved on from the genre rather than just saying fair play i just dont like it anymore and the only reason they do this is, is because they feel like they need to justify not loving the genre that was such a huge part of their life.

/rant over too

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Originally posted by DRM The only difference is that an awful lot of people use the supposed "downfall of trance" these days as some sort of cover up for the plain simple reason they have moved on from the genre rather than just saying fair play i just dont like it anymore and the only reason they do this is, is because they feel like they need to justify not loving the genre that was such a huge part of their life. /rant over too

highly doubt that is true .. although a lot of people have moved onto other genres its plain to see that there is a lot more generic shit trance being churned out these days even by the big name producers .. and i still listen to trance though i find it quite hard finding quality productiosn these days ..

i've never read so much presumptuous, uneducated, closed-minded crap from people who i thought had a clue and respected in a long while.

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Originally posted by DRM im not gonna argue that the big trance artists dont think its all about the money these days i just think its ridiculously nieve to think that this wasnt the case back in the old days too. yes there are hundreds of remakes nowadays but back in the summer of 99 the big producers solely produced tracks that they knew would get in the charts. It was all bordering on cheese, now i am not saying that it wasnt fucking good music but the fact was that it really wasnt any different then to now. The only difference is that an awful lot of people use the supposed "downfall of trance" these days as some sort of cover up for the plain simple reason they have moved on from the genre rather than just saying fair play i just dont like it anymore and the only reason they do this is, is because they feel like they need to justify not loving the genre that was such a huge part of their life. /rant over too

maybe so, but i still love trance but i am fully aware that it has gone to shit and half the time is trying to be something it's not. all these peole who like their supposed "intelligent" genre's have bastardized trance into some rancid trance/prog hybrid which has completely destroyed the soul of what trance really is. whatever happened to tunes like sunday afternoon + waterfall? They're not old but it was fucking good, how trance these days should realy be. And i'm not denying some people say trance is shit now just because they think whatever they listen to is now the coolest and amazingest music evar!!!11 but to say trance (or at least uplifting/melodic) is better than it ever was is a bit of an odd statementt, no disrespect to you of course. i only wish it was better than it was before.

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Originally posted by Cru54d3r highly doubt that is true .. although a lot of people have moved onto other genres its plain to see that there is a lot more generic shit trance being churned out these days even by the big name producers .. and i still listen to trance though i find it quite hard finding quality productiosn these days ..

it is really hard to do so, but like with psy, when you find a gem you really appreciate it

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Originally posted by Ste maybe so, but i still love trance but i am fully aware that it has gone to shit and half the time is trying to be something it's not. all these peole who like their supposed "intelligent" genre's have bastardized trance into some rancid trance/prog hybrid which has completely destroyed the soul of what trance really is. whatever happened to tunes like sunday afternoon + waterfall? They're not old but it was fucking good, how trance these days should realy be. And i'm not denying some people say trance is shit now just because they think whatever they listen to is now the coolest and amazingest music evar!!!11 but to say trance (or at least uplifting/melodic) is better than it ever was is a bit of an odd statementt, no disrespect to you of course. i only wish it was better than it was before.

i totally agree here mate. Trance to me is about either emotion or energy, and I struggle to find that in newer stuff. It's too predictable for my liking and just struggles to do anything for me. I dont see how this makes us elitist or whatever cos we blatantly still like trance, but as you say many people are into the boring stuff of people like andy moor, armins new stuff, and stuff from labels like somatic sense & armada which are terrible

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Originally posted by Ian^ i totally agree here mate. Trance to me is about either emotion or energy, and I struggle to find that in newer stuff. It's too predictable for my liking and just struggles to do anything for me. I dont see how this makes us elitist or whatever cos we blatantly still like trance, but as you say many people are into the boring stuff of people like andy moor, armins new stuff, and stuff from labels like somatic sense & armada which are terrible

haha i think the elitist point people get at is that the people into the other genres or who dont like trance seem to go out of their way to inform people that trance wasnt what it was way back when

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EH?

What choo onabooot?

I went out last night, heard some trance, got off my head, and had a blinder.

Game on!

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Originally posted by zag2me EH? What choo onabooot? I went out last night, heard some trance, got off my head, and had a blinder. Game on!

mEnTaL!

well i heard he was great last night, altho i never ended up goin due to $$ restrictions

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