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Allied Nations
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quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Agreed. I would have definitely found other means of displaying my argument. But then, it's so refreshing to find someone some so passionate about something. I'm not use to seeing others express their views so strongly, so maybe when I finally do see these things (sad that it has to be on TV) they are really just minute? Ok, now, he did seem like to have a bit of a Napolean complex.




I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.

I don't know. I'm torn. I can see validity in both sides. I remember H.S. friends snorting Ritalin for a high, while someone all too close to me was taking it deter hyperactivity. If it works for that person of the latter in terms of coping, it IS valid, is it now? I don't know.


Edit* I would love to further research aspects of Scientology, but with spokemen such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Katie Holmes? hahaah. Seems like a bit of a marketing technique to me. I've yet to see ONE, working, common, middle class person speak of Scientology.


good post.


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quote:
Originally posted by Estella
I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.


I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"

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quote:
Originally posted by M@t
I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"

yeah considering the fact that i have a chemical imbalance, the whole thing sounded like BS to me


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Estella
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quote:
Originally posted by M@t
I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"


Yeah, I believe he went even went to the extreme in saying "they didn't exist."

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gmoney
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If Tom Cruise doesn't believe there is such a thing as a chemical imbalance then he should check himself into a mental hospital and spend a week sorrounded by 20 paranoid schzophrenics. I think he might change his mind afterwards.

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his role in Vanilla Sky somewhat contradicts his belief system.

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quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Agreed. I would have definitely found other means of displaying my argument. But then, it's so refreshing to find someone some so passionate about something. I'm not use to seeing others express their views so strongly, so maybe when I finally do see these things (sad that it has to be on TV) they are really just minute? Ok, now, he did seem like to have a bit of a Napolean complex.


I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.

I don't know. I'm torn. I can see validity in both sides. I remember H.S. friends snorting Ritalin for a high, while someone all too close to me was taking it deter hyperactivity. If it works for that person of the latter in terms of coping, it IS valid, isn't it? I don't know.


Edit* I would love to further research aspects of Scientology, but with spokemen such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Katie Holmes? hahaah. Seems like a bit of a marketing technique to me. I've yet to see ONE, working member of the common middle class speak of this psuedo-science.


good post.

Tom does have a good point, though he really needs to improve his communictiaion skills & maybe do a coarse in 'Plain English'. It is obvious that he struggles to express himself.


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quote:
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I've yet to see ONE, working member of the common middle class speak of this psuedo-science.


I can introduce you to a few


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Here's what this whole incident boils down to.

Tom Cruise is nuttier than squirrel shit. Regardless of whether or not he's done a few decent movies... he's a fucking nutter. He doesn't believe in psychiatry because he thinks he's some sort of intellectual that can self-medicate and tap into his chee or whatever the fuck his scientologist friends tell him he can do.

I, for one, would lock the nutball up and throw away the key considering how he's been ranting and raving all over television in recent months.

And he knows shit about psychology and psychiatry. That's obvious from the way he was attacking both fields in the interview.


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quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Here's what this whole incident boils down to.

Tom Cruise is nuttier than squirrel shit. Regardless of whether or not he's done a few decent movies... he's a fucking nutter. He doesn't believe in psychiatry because he thinks he's some sort of intellectual that can self-medicate and tap into his chee or whatever the fuck his scientologist friends tell him he can do.

I, for one, would lock the nutball up and throw away the key considering how he's been ranting and raving all over television in recent months.

And he knows shit about psychology and psychiatry. That's obvious from the way he was attacking both fields in the interview.

Deep down inside he knows he's a nut case so he fears a psychiatrist would send him off to a nut house or medicate his ass.

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