Originally posted by flavdave
CD-J's and Ableton don't exactly cater to hip hop DJ's and turntablists though.
Correction: they don't cater to vinyl DJs, period. If they did, they'd make them look and feel and resemble vinyl DJing skillsets.
If you want to be a DJ, vinyl's still the industry standard. If all you want to do is play records...technology will completely remove your usefulness to the DJ scene within 5 years.
Jul-27-2005 17:23
sot
shure!
Registered: Sep 2000
Location: and why see
quote:
Originally posted by RzO
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sander kleinenberg
james zabiela
james holden
no more rekkids for them... i mena come on why would a dj who has to travel around the world and back want to lug around ridiculous record bags when they can bring way mor music in cds and take up less space...plus cdj 1000 are fun to use many more options than vinyls
i saw sander las friday and he still plays vinyl and cd and dvdj for visuals..though vinyl is finally dying..i practically converted to 100% cd and believe it or not i used to be a vinyl whore just like all of you..its just more logical and you have more options then a turntable. with a cdj 1000, u can loop, edit all you want while vinyl u can only play the record and barely do shit with it and mix out..cdj and ableton is the wave of the future, cept ableton everything is all premixed which is why im stickin to cdj
Vinyls are nice and I love seeing a dj spin using vinyl, there's just something about it, but realistically it's cheaper to use CD or a final scratch type program. I think that you will see vinyl die out drastically over the next few years.
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Jul-27-2005 18:54
Joost
Uhm Tss
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: The Hague
I have a feeling will still exist for quite a time. It just has a charm to it I can't explain. I just like a DJ more if he's spinning vinyl I think
Jul-27-2005 19:06
iammesol
Burnt out and grown up
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA
Vinyl spinning DJs are almost boring to me now that we have looping, effects, and now with Live even re-constructing songs. I'm sure vinyl will always exist, but for more low key djs who just like plastic.
Jul-27-2005 19:28
Sydag5
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: May 2005
Location: Alpharetta
Its like someone said earlier in the thread. Why does everyone care where the music is coming from. I don't go to the club to watch the Dj spin, I go to dance.
Jul-27-2005 19:48
sleepydragon
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: doncaster, england
quote:
Originally posted by Dancing*Queen
I think that you will see vinyl die out drastically over the next few years.
Markus Schulz used CDs when I saw him play on sunday!
ps.
It makes more sense, you can get tracks faster, and more different types of music that are usually not put onto vinyl =p
Jul-27-2005 20:50
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus Is Dead
does that also mean we can't differentiate between multiple sounds being played at the same time and thus can't produce as well?
Not really, because each layer will be individually made, and then whacked together at the end. Most complex tracks tend to maintain cohesion, where the individual elements allow for each other. So when all the track is playing at once it's still possible to distinguish each element at once. If not, it's kind of a waste.
But throw two such tracks doing different things together- it sounds really confusing in the earphones, I can tell you.
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
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Jul-27-2005 21:13
n0bben
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Bastad
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
The reason why most DJs stop playing vinyl is generally because they were never very good at playing vinyl in the first place. Ergo, they don't miss it when they switch to something else, and the new equipment probably gives them some added skills and techniques that they didn't have the aptitude to accomplish with vinyl anyway, so it's a step up for them to be better DJs.
REAL vinyl disc jockeys who have plied their trade for years and are exceptionally good at what they do will still cling to the artform. After spending that much time practising and honing your personal flavour on a specific aparatus, would you want to immediately throw it all away?
That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.
why are we still discussing? Ishkur actually said it all, right here.