Why shift from one person that being Bin laden to Saddam in which he knew fine well if the US public were lead to belive of his links with Bin laden he wouldn't have any problem wacking him one again , and also he wanted to finish the job he dad never did .
Also he needed to get UN backin to make it all legal like which itself adds more proof that the US Admin was talking crap , consider Regan never botherd going to the UN after the Pan Am107 looking for permission to attack Lybia he just went and did it .
Lets not forget if there was any truth .. in the supposed links why bother goin thro the UN claimin about WMD , all he should have done was taken him out simple as that saving his court appearance . Surely after 9/11 main priorty was getting Bin laden instead they wasted many months fucking about talking shite just to invade Iraq all what for ,, there natural resources simple as that
And Bin laden is laughin at the US still ..
Dec-15-2006 05:16
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Poll results are no surprise to me.. he delibretly lied to people.
This unquestionably warrants impeachment. And a war crimes trial in Hague.
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Dec-15-2006 06:26
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i think the administration believed its own lies to a certain extent.
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Dec-15-2006 06:29
venomX
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i think the administration believed its own lies to a certain extent.
it happens, it's called groupthink, must of the blunders of the bush administration can be traced to this psychological phenomenon in my opinion.
Orbax
At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome
Dec-15-2006 07:37
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Originally posted by venomX
it happens, it's called groupthink, must of the blunders of the bush administration can be traced to this psychological phenomenon in my opinion.
their reallt full .........
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Dec-15-2006 10:02
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GWB the mark2 model doesnt seem to be able to think, speak (or much less make sense doing both at the same time) and find his own arse with both hands, so it doesnt really suprise me he couldnt find something which at best seemed to be rumours. Seemed to sell the idea to a few others as well though along with the fact that he thought Saddam was in cahoots with Bin Laden and god told him to go do it.
I mean the last one was the real nail in the whole debacle dooming it to failure when the guy in charge is hearing things from god to apparently go give it to them.
That should be a warning sign to anyone really.
But bleh, some days its not worth chewing through the straps to convince people otherwise.
Dec-15-2006 11:55
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Originally posted by venomX
it happens, it's called groupthink, must of the blunders of the bush administration can be traced to this psychological phenomenon in my opinion.
I dont think Bush beleived in his lies, he always knew he was lieing... but his subordinates like Powell, Rice believed in him.
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Dec-17-2006 21:02
venomX
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Originally posted by Purple
I dont think Bush beleived in his lies, he always knew he was lieing... but his subordinates like Powell, Rice believed in him.
Groupthink doesnt involve believing one's own lies or half-truths. It's just the phenomena present in their group decision making process that lead them to not evaluate the information as objectively as they should've, and lead to an erroneous decision.
Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program. Watch it:
According to the Project For A New American Century the short list is:
Iraq
Iran
North Korea
But not in that order.
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Jan-16-2007 23:43
shaolin_Z
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^^ You beat me to it .
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Jan-17-2007 01:21
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Yes, we were decieved. Thank god president's only have 2 terms.