You could probably form a reasonable stereotype of trance and people who listen to trance. Thing is, it has nothing to do with the popular stereotype people have of these things.

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Originally posted by NuDarkBeat Exactly. I live in Miami buddy and the people here that listen to hip hop WISH they were gansters, even if they aren't. So yes that music is related to gansters, money, bitches, killing, 40's, old english, 22" spinnnaz, gold chains, pop that pussy, etc. As for EDM, I think that EDM is much more civilized and intelligent music. The reason why I think that EDM has this opportunity is because unlike rap or hip-hop, it doesnt always have lyrics to hold it in its usual sterotypical stigma.

Enlighten me as to why you think this. I need a good laugh.

He just did, in that very same post.

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Originally posted by Aquarian He just did, in that very same post.

By saying EDM is more civilized and intelligent because most of the time it doesn't have lyrics is a stupid reason. It really is. Trance tracks that have lyrics that have thought provoking social and political content are very few and far between, unlike in hip hop. The "ooh baby I love you so much" trance lyrics and "I'mmma kill this bitch" gangsta rap lyrics cancel each other out as it were, remove the crap.

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Originally posted by flavdave By saying EDM is more civilized and intelligent because most of the time it doesn't have lyrics is a stupid reason. It really is. Trance tracks that have lyrics that have thought provoking social and political content are very few and far between, unlike in hip hop. The "ooh baby I love you so much" trance lyrics and "I'mmma kill this bitch" gangsta rap lyrics cancel each other out as it were, remove the crap.

are u in here to diss EDM listeners? just deal with the fact rap is like that and stop telling us its not about gangsters and crimes, we can see for ourslef, we are not stupid.

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Originally posted by gouuryella are u in here to diss EDM listeners? just deal with the fact rap is like that and stop telling us its not about gangsters and crimes, we can see for ourslef, we are not stupid.

Come again? You might not be stupid, but you are ignorant.

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Originally posted by flavdave Come again? You might not be stupid, but you are ignorant.

Call me whatever you want man. Ive had this argument with you before and you always like to defend rap/hip hop, and thats ok, its your choice, im just saying that you are blind to see that your defenition of rap music doesnt have crimes or dealing with prositutes and all that kind of crap that, such big escalades, ect ect. Yeah, there are some decent people in the rap industry but those decent people are just a very small percatage. You might say that well EDM people like X, hmmm yeah some might, but the people that really appriciate EDM is for the music, its not because they love to do X on it, its because they love the music. Most of the time, the only people that do X are clubbers that are just there for the fun, not music. But you seem to have a bigger view on other genres of music such as rap, i dont, i dont really care about it like i told you because rap is shit to me, nothing but crimes and a f***** up way of life and culture.

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Originally posted by gouuryella Call me whatever you want man. Ive had this argument with you before and you always like to defend rap/hip hop, and thats ok, its your choice, im just saying that you are blind to see that your defenition of rap music doesnt have crimes or dealing with prositutes and all that kind of crap that, such big escalades, ect ect. Yeah, there are some decent people in the rap industry but those decent people are just a very small percatage. You might say that well EDM people like X, hmmm yeah some might, but the people that really appriciate EDM is for the music, its not because they love to do X on it, its because they love the music. Most of the time, the only people that do X are clubbers that are just there for the fun, not music. But you seem to have a bigger view on other genres of music such as rap, i dont, i dont really care about it like i told you because rap is shit to me, nothing but crimes and a f***** up way of life and culture.

Indeed. The children of the world would be much better off listening to trance than rap wouldn't you all agree? Not trying to play God or anything, but, rap rarely has anything good to say.

yeah, my brother always asks me if I trip on E when i listen to the music just joking around. My mom likes some of the songs and my dad will listen to it if I leave some CD in the car or something. But yeah, the whole big booty and bling bling thing is the whole reason I listen to HIP-HOP and not rap.

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Originally posted by gouuryella Call me whatever you want man. Ive had this argument with you before and you always like to defend rap/hip hop, and thats ok, its your choice, im just saying that you are blind to see that your defenition of rap music doesnt have crimes or dealing with prositutes and all that kind of crap that, such big escalades, ect ect. Yeah, there are some decent people in the rap industry but those decent people are just a very small percatage. You might say that well EDM people like X, hmmm yeah some might, but the people that really appriciate EDM is for the music, its not because they love to do X on it, its because they love the music. Most of the time, the only people that do X are clubbers that are just there for the fun, not music. But you seem to have a bigger view on other genres of music such as rap, i dont, i dont really care about it like i told you because rap is shit to me, nothing but crimes and a f***** up way of life and culture.

Holy shit, do you even know how to read? Dave hasn't said rap music doesn't have crimes or deal with prostitutes "and all that kind of crap" - he's merely trying to show you that there's more to it than the narrow scope of music you've listened to and classified as rap/hiphop.

He's made the following argument before, so I might be crazy to think that making it again would somehow penetrate your lead-coated skull, but here it is.

Just as not all of trance is Lasgo, Milk Inc, DJ Sammy, etc... not all of hiphop deals with gangs, murdering, prostitutes, money, etc... Just as elitists within the trance genre like to overclassify (in order to place some distance between themselves and music they don't like) by saying acts like DJ Sammy aren't trance at all but Eurodance, Hiphop elitists like to overclassify as well and say that acts such as the ones you most likely have in mind aren't hiphop at all, but rather mainstream crap. However, this doesn't change the fact that someone new, inexperience, or otherwise too lazy to really look into the genre will simply listen to the more readily available music and either enjoy or write off the entire genre and all related genres based on their limited exposure.

In everything, there is an underground. And everywhere, there are stupid people. Make an effort to educate yourself and stop being one of the stupid people.

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Holy shit, do you even know how to read? Dave hasn't said rap music doesn't have crimes or deal with prostitutes "and all that kind of crap" - he's merely trying to show you that there's more to it than the narrow scope of music you've listened to and classified as rap/hiphop. He's made the following argument before, so I might be crazy to think that making it again would somehow penetrate your lead-coated skull, but here it is. Just as not all of trance is Lasgo, Milk Inc, DJ Sammy, etc... not all of hiphop deals with gangs, murdering, prostitutes, money, etc... Just as elitists within the trance genre like to overclassify (in order to place some distance between themselves and music they don't like) by saying acts like DJ Sammy aren't trance at all but Eurodance, Hiphop elitists like to overclassify as well and say that acts such as the ones you most likely have in mind aren't hiphop at all, but rather mainstream crap. However, this doesn't change the fact that someone new, inexperience, or otherwise too lazy to really look into the genre will simply listen to the more readily available music and either enjoy or write off the entire genre and all related genres based on their limited exposure. In everything, there is an underground. And everywhere, there are stupid people. Make an effort to educate yourself and stop being one of the stupid people.

Not all of rap but most of it does. i dont think you can read also my friend, when u do then try to have a conversation, i dont care anyways, **** rap, i cant stand it and thats the way to say it, call me whatever you want .

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Originally posted by xstalkrx Indeed. The children of the world would be much better off listening to trance than rap wouldn't you all agree? Not trying to play God or anything, but, rap rarely has anything good to say.

Exactly man, thats the whole point.

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