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Originally posted by thesuperfunk It certainly didn't feature the remix names on the back ... you would have thought Gerry would have known that beforehand instead of having a bitch at PvD for a matter out of his hands.

yea

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Originally posted by Dave Clarke Of course it was, there were a few sly comments in there that probably arent actually true anyway. I mean hes never actually spoken to PvD directly yet hes on here giving us word by word accounts of what was suppopsedly said. gerry has obviously taken things badly & that shows. He is bitter. He should get over it. Yes apparently if you dont like tiesto, armin or markus schulz your opinions are 'tripe'. nice one, dont you like tiesto actually?

yes, he also looks to be willing to accept the fact and 'get over it', letting it be focusing on his own productions to get where he wants to get. paul is quite blatently in the wrong over it and anyone would be a bit narked off in gerry's situation... and it's not like gerry's gone on a hate crusade against pvd or mouthed off on one without being provoked (he was answering someone's post on this thread). it seems like you exaggerated his claims just so you could go off on a rant of your own... i've noticed you seem to enjoy doing that

and on the contrary, i've seen just as much bollocks come out the mouths of tiesto/armin/schulz fans as i have non-fans. music taste seldom dictates intelligence/attitude

check out www.paulvandyk.com

theres's been an update about the TPOD2 cd. Check it out on the first page. NO samples yet but a brief talk on his ablum.

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Originally posted by Dave Clarke oh dear gerry, you sound so bitter. remix credits dont usually appear on compilation covers. do you ever see a remix credit on the back of a GU mix CD? no. And do you see any of those producers going round message boards whinging that they havent got credit? No. Look inside the sleeve. Anyway, maybe you would get more sympathy from people that arent idiots if your 'cover' of messages wasnt a total rip off of PvD's own track Connected in the first place. I mean, it is exactly the same in every way isnt it? apart from the melody of course, but then thats from the solange record. So what you have effectively done here is take the melody from one record & pasted it onto the structure of another, and then go on to complain that you arent getting the credit that you deserve. such a shame. Whats clear from your outburst is that you are only really in the trance 'game' to become famous. Well someone ought to tell you that there is no possibility of that anymore, so you might as well quit now.

If TPOD2 is in fact the tpod2 that is put up on the websites now. (I listened to the whole thing when they had the whole thing on nettwerk.com) and quite frankly although it says PVD edited/remixed/reworked most of the songs, all of the songs sound like the actual version, without any pvd at all. In this sense, Gerry Cueto definitely should have been credited since paul van dyk didnt do shit except record his jahre maximal set on two cd's and call it TPOD2. ...This is coming from a long time pvd fan.

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Originally posted by isoterra paul is quite blatently in the wrong over it and anyone would be a bit narked off in gerry's situation

Have you read the thread?

It's not PvD's fault there was a 10 year contract over the artist name.

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Originally posted by thesuperfunk Have you read the thread? It's not PvD's fault there was a 10 year contract over the artist name.

lol, have you been reading the thread??

it is PvD's fault that Gerry isn't getting credit as the official remixer; which he is.

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Originally posted by djmetatron lol, have you been reading the thread?? it is PvD's fault that Gerry isn't getting credit as the official remixer; which he is.

I'm pretty certain that all the artwork, design, etc is handled by an outside company so why is it PvD's fault?

Gerry has already admitted he only did the remix to further his career ... I don't see any other producers getting cheap digs in because their name wasn't on the sleeve. It's hardly the 'professional' way to go about things.

according to Gerry (in this thread, look for it), PvD feels that the remixers do not deserve credit on the album as he edits all the tracks himself. But an edit is hardly a remix and the remixers on all the tracks DO deserve credit. Don't you think?

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Originally posted by djmetatron according to Gerry (in this thread, look for it), PvD feels that the remixers do not deserve credit on the album as he edits all the tracks himself. But an edit is hardly a remix and the remixers on all the tracks DO deserve credit. Don't you think?

Exactly ... 'according to gerry' ... until we have proof from him i suspect this is just some mis-interpreted quote.

I agree totally that remixers deserve credit but going about things the way Gerry has done isn't right.

lol, this was the harshest thing Gerry said:

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I still dont' get how editing a track can be more credable than remixing one, but hey he's Paul the big superstar DJ, and I'm Gerry Cueto the little producer guy. His decision is far superior than mine.

a little cheeky yes, but hardly what you guys make it out to be. the real issue is that this sparked a hot topic, and rightfully so. if gerry is right about this then PvD has some 'splaining to do.

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Originally posted by djmetatron lol, this was the harshest thing Gerry said: a little cheeky yes, but hardly what you guys make it out to be. the real issue is that this sparked a hot topic, and rightfully so. if gerry is right about this then PvD has some 'splaining to do.

PvD doesn't need to explain anything to anyone.

Even if Gerry's comment holds true why should PvD totally change the TPOD2 design just so the 'little producer' can get his break? especially over what is no more that a rehash of 'Messages' with the 'Connected' melody thrown in for good measure.

Gerry himself has stated that he needs an 'original' hit to break into the scene ... i suggest he concentrates on that instead of bitching on message boards.