Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Local Scene Info / Discussion / EDM Event Listings > Canada > Canada - Toronto & Southern Ont. > Ways to save on gas!
Pages (4): « 1 2 3 [4]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
VERTiG0
cunning linguist.



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Adamo
time to get me a VESPA


Hahahahhahah those things are for girls

HONDA RUCKUS!

Old Post Sep-01-2005 20:57  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for VERTiG0 Click here to Send VERTiG0 a Private Message Add VERTiG0 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
failsafe
dirty numb angel boy



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: YYZ (finally)

The problem with hydrogen cars isn't caused by the explosive nature of hydrogen. The fact that extracting hydrogen expends more energy then the hydrogen offers back, is the catch now. Unless someone here has a brilliant idea on how to free hydrogen atoms about 10x more easily then they are able to do now?

Old Post Sep-01-2005 21:12 
Click Here to See the Profile for failsafe Click here to Send failsafe a Private Message Add failsafe to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
VERTiG0
cunning linguist.



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
Unless someone here has a brilliant idea on how to free hydrogen atoms about 10x more easily then they are able to do now?


Hydrogen fuel cells

Old Post Sep-01-2005 21:16  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for VERTiG0 Click here to Send VERTiG0 a Private Message Add VERTiG0 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yeah, but they're so minor that its bullshit.

ook at my engine's rev, I see for 100kmh @ ~2000rpm and 120kmh @ ~2400rpm. Looks like my engine is working 20% harder, but also drives 20% faster so it equals itself. But I agree that it varies greatly from car to car (4v vs 6v vs 8v).

And try to explain this, with a full tank i drive around for 400km half highway, half city. And when I do Mtl-TO (550km), I use a full tank driving at 150-160kmh with full ac the whole time.

If infact driving faster used that much more gaz plus AC use, then I would've barely gotten 400km out a full tank even though its only a highway drive.

Ok, actually it is true that you'll get worse mileage at very high speeds, but the "drag" explanation is completely wrong. You'll also get worse mileage at very *low* speeds.

Take this from an electrical engineer who took two courses in motors and machines: electrical motors are optimized for energy efficiency at a certain RPM. I'm not even talking about the actual efficiency when you take into account things like drag and stuff, but the actual theoretical efficiency of a motor peaks at a certain RPM or current, and for most newish cars that translates to somewhere between 100 - 120 km/h. That's not a coincidence - it's done on purpose, because the manufacturers of those motors expect them to be running at that RPM most often!

So Malek, the explanation you're looking for is: you're losing efficiency when you're driving 160 on the highway, but you are losing a lot MORE efficiency when you're driving 30-60 in the city! "Stop-and-go" traffic is the worst (and there's plenty of that in Montreal! ), because braking is negative efficiency and accelerating from 0 is extremely low efficiency. That is by far where you waste the most fuel.

Bottom line is, you will get poorer mileage if you go 160 compared to 120 on the highway, but that is still good compared to what you'll get going 40 in the city. That's why all cars have different "highway" and "city" mileage ratings - they are based on the average speed which the car is expected to be moving at under those conditions.


___________________
My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

Old Post Sep-01-2005 21:35  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for DigiNut Click here to Send DigiNut a Private Message Add DigiNut to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
Public Transit

LOL, yeah, right! I'm just itching to sit on a hot crowded non-air-conditioned bus full of sweaty dudes who haven't bathed since the Trudeau administration for TWO FULL HOURS instead of spending 25 minutes in my icy-cool car blasting my favourite t00nz.


___________________
My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

Old Post Sep-01-2005 21:37  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for DigiNut Click here to Send DigiNut a Private Message Add DigiNut to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Local Scene Info / Discussion / EDM Event Listings > Canada > Canada - Toronto & Southern Ont. > Ways to save on gas!
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (4): « 1 2 3 [4]  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackHelp me ID this plz!! [2005] [11]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackBrainbug - Nightmare [2005]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 02:19.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!