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Mike_Foyle
Two colours in my head



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK

i completely disagree with the thread starter but each to his own opinion.. it takes alot to produce a rock band well. if u want to hear crisp electronic rock music check out ben lost's band, tough love. its kinda alternative elctro punk or something, in fact i have no fucking clue what it is but its quite cool


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Mr. Pink
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, bitchezzz
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quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
*started


lol



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TranZ Latina
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Queens, NY

quote:
Originally posted by XeQtOr
WTF are you on? :P Listen to SOAD's Toxicity Cd and say it would need some mastering? IMO it's one of the best sounding/produced heavy metal records of all time..


WERD!


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meneedit
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how did I know when I saw 38 replies it wouldnt have been people listing bands.

Just people arguing

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Mr. Pink
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Registered: Dec 2003
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Well what do you want?

as far as a band that has a good crisp sound.....live AND on their recorded CD's.....


i have a few:

Incubus
Radiohead
Coldplay

for now

i have some that i enjoyed in the past like
nirvana and the pumpkins...

but anything NEW....no sir.


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Registered: Feb 2003
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this thread reminds me of highschool.

anyways, rap > all.


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flavdave
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Richmond/Blacksburg, VA

Here is an article about great rock producers (George Martin, Sam Phillips, Brian Eno, etc):

http://www.audiogalaxy.com/articles?&a=148

quote:
The Best Rock Producers

The producer is the least recognized component of rock music. In a certain sense, this is deserved: producers rarely author a band's songs or play their instruments (although they often write arrangements and additional parts), and a great many producers do little more than stand around hassling sound engineers to "make it sound like the Beatles." In fact, at least one of the people we included on this list, the cantankerous Steve Albini, actively refuses to be labeled a "producer." However, for every thousand big business players with huge egos and no recording expertise, there's a producer who has made deep and lasting contributions to the way rock music sounds. Some, producers, like Sam Phillips, are almost the reason that rock music even exists at all. A great producer is a kind of musical magician, mysteriously able to turn a good band into a great band and a great band into an amazing, earthshatteringly great band. Some producers can make what comes out of your stereo speakers sound immaculately beautiful, and others can make you forget the music is even coming out of stereo speakers at all and not originating from a stage or from inside your head. Below, we present an alphabetical list of our ten favorite rock producers. Honorable mentions go out especially to Brian Wilson (the Beach Boys), Willie Mitchell (Al Green), Steve Lillywhite (XTC, U2, the Pogues), and Quincy Jones (everything). Also, we felt like we should mention Robert John "Mutt" Lange. This rock mastermind may have done as much harm as he has good, but there's no denying the raw rock power of AC/DC's Back in Black, or the commercial clout of Shania Twain.

Steve Albini - These days, Steve Albini is music's last defense against crass, placeless, cheesy production. Big Black's founder and the prod...uh...engineer for tons of records by groups including the Pixies, Nirvana, the Breeders, Low, and the Dirty Three (as well as a good share of big business acts like Bush, Page and Plant, and Nine Inch Nails) is an outspoken proponent of analog technology and a dedicated foe of overcompression, plus he gets the best damn drum sounds out there.

Brian Eno - Brian Eno has often said that his instrument is the studio. Using that instrument, Eno invented ambient music, made substantial contributions to electronic and experimental music, and still found time to produce the best work of artists like David Bowie, the Talking Heads (who later said that after awhile they began feeling like "Brian Eno's backing band") and U2. He also heavily influenced Daniel Lanois, who went on to be a wildly successful producer in his own right, working with Emmylou Harris, Willie Nelson, and Bob Dylan.

Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff - Gamble and Huff (alongside their contemporary, Al Green producer Willie Mitchell) represent the apex of pop soul production. The creators of the Philly Soul style, Gamble and Huff, with Thom Bell, brought an incredibly warm, lush and sophisticated sound to hits by bands like the O'Jays, the Spinners, and Barbara Mason, and house band MSFB. Their urbane, lavish pop effortlessly exuded a feeling to which all soft R&B would later aspire.

Holland-Dozier-Holland - A precursor to Gamble and Huff, Brian and Eddie Holland and Lamont Dozier worked for Berry Gordy's legendary Motown records. In addition to writing a stunning number of hits for Motown artists ("Where Did Our Love Go," "Nowhere to Run," and "Baby Love" among many, many others), the three produced signature Motown artists like the Supremes, the Four Tops, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas, and the Isley Brothers and were central to the creation of the immortal Motown sound.

Glyn Johns - Glyn Johns is classic rock. He got his start as a tape operator for the Beatles before moving on the produce records by the Rolling Stones, The Who, the Faces, the Eagles, Eric Clapton, and the Steve Miller Band. Johns also engineered for Led Zeppelin, and for that alone I'll forgive him for enabling Desperado.

George Martin - Perhaps the most famous producer of all time. Also, perhaps, the best. Sir George Martin holds the most legitimate claim to being "The Fifth Beatle." When the Beatles were freaking out on acid saying "I want to sound as though I'm the Dalai Lama singing from the highest mountaintop!" (actual John Lennon quote), George Martin was there, in his white lab coat, calmly inventing flanging and breaking out the Leslie speaker. When the Beatles wanted some weird new instrument, George Martin would put down his tea and pick up the piccolo. And when John Lennon wanted to somehow put together two different versions of "Strawberry Fields Forever" in two different keys and at two different speeds, George Martin was somehow able to do it.

Lee "Scratch" Perry - The mad genius Lee Perry was an inventor of reggae as well as the most important contributor to the dub music that would prove massively influential to both electronica and hip hop. At his Black Ark studio, Perry wrenched from a young unknown Bob Marley the most powerful, spiritual work the reggae superstar would ever make. He also went on to on to work with artists as varied as the Clash and the Mad Professor.

Sam Phillips - Sam Phillips was the first rock and roll producer. In fact, at his independent Sun Records label Phillips just about invented rock and roll. For "Rocket 88," Phillips advised Jackie Brenton's guitarist to use an amp that had just fallen off the van and broken, creating the harsh, dirty guitar sound that graced what is often labeled the first rock and roll single. In Phillips' discovery of Elvis Presley, though, he changed music forever. Not content, he then went on to discover and record Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, B.B. King, and Howlin' Wolf among many others.

Phil Spector - The brilliant and neurotic Phil Spector was one of the most influential producers in rock. In his "wall of sound" production style, a constant blast of ecstatic instrumentation competed with his ebullient singers (often in girl groups like the Ronettes, the Crystals, and the Dixie Cups) to create miniature teenage operas, melodramatic and often transcendently joyous works of pop art. Spector went on to produce (and kind of ruin) the Beatles' swan song Let It Be before lending an able (and restrained) hand to the solo debuts of John Lennon and George Harrison.

Jerry Wexler - Jerry Wexler coined the term "Rhythm and Blues." As head of Atlantic Records, Wexler journeyed to Memphis's Stax Records' studio to record great R&B acts like Sam and Dave and Wilson Pickett. At FAME studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, Wexler produced Percy Sledge's "When a Man Loves a Woman" and brought out the superstar in Aretha Franklin. He later went on to record Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, and Dire Straits, whom he also helped sign (along with the B-52's and Gang of Four).


I would also add Rick Rubin and Brendan O'Brien to the list. Now quit yer bitchin' meneedit.

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CleverName
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: home

I'd look at the lyrics in rock music before I bring up the lack of mastering or w/e. Every rock song I've heard in the last year is about some whiney twit bitching about how his parents won't let him smoke pot and his girlfriend left him for a guy with a better skateboard.


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Ace_of_Spades
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: GTA

Well If you guys wanna talk about rock music ,you should consider all kinds of it!..
Rock music has lots of kinds ,, classical rock,soft rock,hardrock,metal,alternative rock,soft metal,heavy metal,nu metal,power metal,speed metal,death metal,black metal,punk rock,rock n roll n so on!
like for example metallica is mostly heavy metal or speed metal.
or SOAD is nu metal!
there are lots of bands that i don't remember their names anymore but even though i rarely listen to rcok anymore i believe that rock music is such a soulful and deep music. im not talkin about the punk bullshits...
in total every kinds of music has a message for us,by listening we feel what the producer's feelings are.
But the rock feeling doesn't work with my feelings anymore,cause i don't agree with their lifestyle.
I still respect them all ,but now rock aint for me,and my ears.
on the other hand trance and electronic music, is a repetitive and perfect tune. If you feel it ,you become so much into it.

So bottom line is rock and trance both are valuable work of art and each have their own fans and listeners.

by the way i hate SOAD's last album...it's so much commercial!
I think toxicity was their best album so far.

done

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Mike_Foyle
Two colours in my head



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK

ok the most obvious band is the red hot chilli peppers. sorry if someone has already mentioned them i didnt bother to read all the pages.

their tracks are so clean. very little use of reverb or any other electronic processors. Most of their tracks are pretty much perfectly recorded if you ask me. it tends to be the cheap shitty nu rock and pop rock that sounds shit. it's cool these days to be distorted to hell and overdriven so much that you cant make out the vocals or anything else. It's just about what the target audience want. and in commercial rock the target audience is 14-24 year olds who dont really give a shit if they cant hear the vocals, as long as its distorted to fuck and hurts their ears they will like it. either that or its just a cheap attempt to hide shit lyrics!


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Lepanto
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: The Height of New Colossus

bottom line is the fact that the author of the thread doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. same way a person who's into another genre of music wouldn't know much about electronica and would claim it all sounds the same. so next time you make a dumb thread like this, know what it is you're talking about.


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