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Originally posted by Ishkur Yes, yes. I know...I know, I can read fucking Sindarin, okay...see, it was really late and I didn't feel likeOkay, fine. You want to throw down right fucking now? Bring it, ithryn runt. I'll go fucking nirnaeth arnoediad on your nature-loving ass.

That must have been some bomb peyote. You have a reputation to uphold here.

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Addy fo SHADDY ! hiccup, KA pladdy.

From what I've seen, I'd have to say that trance music is not a culture. Its more of a place to go with your friends to party for the night (and get back to your life the next day), no matter if you like the music or not. Some go there for the drugs, for curiousity, cause other people bring them there ... but I dont think it brings people together.

Some EDM genres, in particularly the early/underground Disco (before it was commercialized-brutalized) and Chicago House in the 80s brought people together, I've seen it and read it. They had their own culture, slang, dress code, places to meet people and/or get help if you need a friend, plus they revolutionized the club itself! My father's close friend's story is the testament of the success of the Chicago movement ... People in the 1980s went to chicago house clubs (at least for the ones I read about) to meet people and were a distinct and respected group of people. Very much like to the San Francisco 1970s disco gay community - bigger and stronger today. I am not gay, yet I was very impressed which what I read about them.

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Alright so I can see that most of you think that trance has no culture, which is kind of sad because, as you said, the clubs don't bring people together.

Aside from trance, is there such thing as rave culture, or is that dead too?

This is making me depressed like trance has died or something. Like the old days were better (the 90s). Why do you think that it's changed?

There is still a rave culture I think, alot of people really do live a rave lifestyle. www.partyvibe.com would be a good place to learn about that I guess, but there really is a way of life and a seperate vocabulary and comminuty for some party scenes.

Trance just seems to be more a commodity these days than it is a lifestyle, it has lost its passion and turned into something you can buy rather than something you can participate in. I think it changed because of a combination of government crackdowns and commercialization. There are still non commercial parties though so all is not lost, it is just hard to find.

Thre is planty of entrancing music to be found, it might not be labeled as trance anymore but it is out there.

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Originally posted by avstar Alright so I can see that most of you think that trance has no culture, which is kind of sad because, as you said, the clubs don't bring people together. Aside from trance, is there such thing as rave culture, or is that dead too? This is making me depressed like trance has died or something. Like the old days were better (the 90s). Why do you think that it's changed?

I don't normally do interviews, but I did once to Detroit Movement Guide, of which Marcus Lira was gracious enough to post the transcript here. I touch on why it changed, and what the biggest culprit is.

(hint: it starts with an m, and no self-respecting DJ will play for less than 20,000 versions of it)

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=169491