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Originally posted by Push2005 If there's one musical genre crammed with drugs then it's TECHNO ! Techno is to blame for al the drugs in the clubs; not trance. I even dare to state that most of the TRUE trance listeners don't take drugs. But raves get such a negative connotation because they(police; government, ...) associate electronic dance music automaticially with drugs; so trance shouldn't be the black sheep at all.

Why blame a genre for drug usage, in fact...why blame anything or anyone for usage. If you really want to find a blame for drug usage then blame it on the users,...and even then...blaming something would suggest they do something wrong. Wrong in who's eyes and for what reasons?

Are people to blame for personal choices they make which should not have any negative effects on others, unless they misuse. Which is another sad finding we have to make, as with everything, there is use and misuse,...and its a pity the people who know nothing about drugs categorise others immediately as misusers whilst many themselves drink til they can't walk anymore and start annoying people around them.

People often blame governments for not reacting strongly enough upon usage, I think they are more so to blame for the poisoning of the narrow-minded public by misinformation regarding drugs.


About the true trance listeners I agree half with you Yes in the case if the user can not enjoy trance without drugs, not at all in the case the user's first love is trance and takes something to maximise the feeling, so I've seen in the case of some friends who sometimes take E whilst listening to trance.


PS, Push, by no means is this directed against you or so, but you know that already

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I made a thread about this same topic a while back. I got some interesting answers.

The Government wants to crack down on drugs.

The Government does not want to alienate their friends at Sony, BMG and Universal.

Sony, BMG and Universal don't want their disgustingly lucrative pop/rock/rap groups. They don't give a damn about trance/techno/jungle/etc.

The Government releases propaganda against drug use at raves, but pop/rock/rap concerts are praised as paragons of unpstanding citezenship, despite the fact that drug use is rampant in all venues.

The Masses are averse to raves, and pop/rock/rap becomes more popular.

It's a cycle.

Although in mainstream rap, drug use is actually promoted as it makes the rappers seem more "thug." Go figure.

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Originally posted by Sushi Unfortunately trance and raves are associated with the often-proclaimed number one enemy of the Government (at least it was till the terrorists came along), DRUGS. The cops hate raves. Don't believe me? Do a search for that fascist crap that happened in Utah a while back. Raves are demonized as musical dens of iniquity because about 5-10% (maybe even less) of the people at the rave are rolling on E. There's even legislation now (the aptly named RAVE act) which essentially makes the host of any event where people are using drugs the dealer of those drugs, whether the host knew they were there or not. The cops hate raves. That's why you don't see really big trance shows, and that's why big arenas wouldn't be caught dead hosting one. Do only people listening to Trance do drugs? When and where do people listening to Rock / Hip Pop / Rap do drugs? And why not such concerts with drug use are banned ?!!

i disagree with everything uve just said.
Most of the music is made by people who take drugs the dance scene was built up around drugs without drugs the dance scene wouldnt exist not the other way round.
As for people taking drugs in a club ur looking at 90% i dont meet many people not on something and i dont thing coppers could careles about clubs they dont ever look like they want to be there its a coppers dream get 1000 people who take illegal substances lock them in a building and let them do what they want all night they not harming anyone else. The only reason police raid premises is cause of pressure from the public to do something it makes good headlines in the newspaper 99% of the time there wont be any police at an event anyway they only turn up for big events.

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Originally posted by Rockabye And Mr. Van Dyk sniffs the biggest lines behind the dj booth

*ggg*

I always wanted to know what Drug is?

Is it a way of life, or is it to get away from life?

What are drugs? All the things you probably consider as drugs AS WELL AS alcohol, tobacco, medicine, dietary supplements, etc. So everybody takes "drugs"


And to answer your question, I guess it is a part of life, just as you drink a glass of alcohol.

If drugs start controlling your life then that is abuse of drugs

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It dosen't matter what music you listen to, drugs are there.

You think Jimmy Page wasn't fucked off his head? Think again.

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Originally posted by SteveMKIIDub It dosen't matter what music you listen to, drugs are there. You think Jimmy Page wasn't fucked off his head? Think again.

very true, drugs are everywhere

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Originally posted by Sushi Unfortunately trance and raves are associated with the often-proclaimed number one enemy of the Government (at least it was till the terrorists came along), DRUGS. The cops hate raves. Don't believe me? Do a search for that fascist crap that happened in Utah a while back. Raves are demonized as musical dens of iniquity because about 5-10% (maybe even less) of the people at the rave are rolling on E. There's even legislation now (the aptly named RAVE act) which essentially makes the host of any event where people are using drugs the dealer of those drugs, whether the host knew they were there or not. The cops hate raves. That's why you don't see really big trance shows, and that's why big arenas wouldn't be caught dead hosting one. Do only people listening to Trance do drugs? When and where do people listening to Rock / Hip Pop / Rap do drugs? And why not such concerts with drug use are banned ?!!

i say up to 80% percent roll on E and 25% take speed and if not mistaken almost 15% add special K to their menu

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Originally posted by Frank-HH *ggg*

adding MR tiesto on the list

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can anyone tell me why?

or is it that drugusers mis out something.
they are not complete and need something extra ....to become one haha

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