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skot_e
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide


Just let me play one more..... just let me play one more.... yeah I just want one more....
He might get sick of you and leave! Haha

Old Post Feb-17-2006 00:15  Australia
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Ministerio
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: The US of O

Nah, I couldn't go with a 4 hour set anyways. All I really have are 'warm up' tracks. More progressive, nothing really that gets my fancy...

Old Post Feb-17-2006 00:27  Hungary
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Tygon
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Location: K-Dub, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
Thanks for the advice. But you also scared the shit outta me (when I'm beginning to CHILL)

What do you mean I'll trainwreck? I won't be playing CDs, I'm ONLY mixing vinyl with the cds, so the maximum is where I mix out of his cds.

Were you referring to me trainwrecking if I use the CD player? Once again, only he will be playing cds and I'll only be playing vinyl. I'll mix out of his cds but not mix the actual cds.

What wer you referring to about trainwrecking? Damn, you just made me stumble.

EDIT: BTW, do you have any residencies/gigs?


Haha... sorry for making you nervous again. My intentions were informative... not malicious. Yes, I know you're only mixing vinyl.... Let me clarify...

When you mix a track, you're not just mixing on one turntable... as the tracks proceed to mix from one to the other, you'll generally be adjusting it slightly to ensure the tracks are bang on. This is usually done using the pitch control. So, lemme give you an example here.......

It's your turn to mix...you beatmatch your record and begin to mix in... everything should be fine... you begin to manipulate the EQs, perhaps adjusting the pitch on the vinyl slightly while you're bringing the track in.......... now, when you've eq'd YOUR track to the point that it becomes the dominant song, you should no longer be adjusting it for tempo/pitch/beatmatching.... theses adjustments can easily be heard by the crowd. SO... my point is that IFFFF you need to adjust the mix whatsoever to ensure the beats are bang on for the rest of the mix, you SHOULD be adjusting the CD deck.... to minimize the chance that the audience will hear your adjustments. It's easier and less noticable to manipulate the track you've mixed out of (CD deck) instead.

Maybe this won't make sense until you actually try mixing on equipment you're unfamiliar with... but my point in the previous message was to say.... try to minimize the amount that you have to use unfamiliar equipment is all...... however, practice adjusting the CD deck.. and by the end of the night, you'll be just fine. NEXT time you play there, you'll be a little more knowledgeable.

I'm not "wrong"... I was just giving you a heads-up on something to be aware of. Remember this piece of advice when you play

To answer your other question... I currently hold 3 residencies in the Toronto area... 1 of which is one of the area's super clubs (hosting 1000+ ppl/event)... I'm a founder of one of the leading production companies here and we bring in the best international djs. I have a lot of experience with playing on many different kinds of systems and in front of every size crowd. My company's main focus is based on helping 'up and comers' gain experience and knowledge in an industry that generally gives little to no room for growth...

Old Post Feb-17-2006 16:35  Canada
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IntegraR0064
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Location: Phoenixville (Philly), PA

quote:
Originally posted by Tygon
I'm not "wrong"... I was just giving you a heads-up on something to be aware of. Remember this piece of advice when you play


Let me clarify as well...I didn't want to say that what you said was totally wrong. The statement that "you will trainwreck" was wrong. A more accurate one is "you may trainwreck". It's good that you posted that to give him a heads up, but I wanted to offer the counterpoint that I had no trouble whatsoever adjusting to CDs even when my time using CD decks had no turntables involved at all. And he doesn't even have to use any functions on there...the only thing he'll have to use is teh pitch control, which he should already know how to use since its the same as his turntables. It'd be understandable if he did have trouble, but he probably won't.

The only reason he might have a problem is if he corrects while in the mix by touching/moving the record, as opposed to using the pitch control. If that's the case...than he will have just a little more trouble. If this is the case, Ministerio, then I would also learn to use the jog wheel/pitch bend before the gig. MOST LIKELY (assuming he's not in numark's "scratch mode", which he shouldn't be if the guy he's spinning with is like 99.999% of edm djs), just spin the wheel counterclockwise to slow down the track slightly temporarily, and spin the wheel clockwise to speed it up slightly, temporarily. Again..very simple. Just make sure you get to try it once or twice before people arrive so you can get a little bit of a feel for how much you have to move it to get a certain amount of adjustment. This would be the equivalent of pushing /dragging the record.


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Old Post Feb-17-2006 18:04  United States
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Tygon
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: K-Dub, Canada

Exactly...

And you're right.. "trainwreck" is a rather drastic term which I use loosely when referring to tracks becoming off-beat and not necessarily a complete disaster... It comes from listening to countless demos and developing a jaded ear for these things...

Another tip: The key to correction is not panicing... stay calm.. think about what needs to be done... and do it...

Didn't want to make you nervous... just have fun... that's all DJing is about......... go party and play your beats for everyone!

Old Post Feb-17-2006 18:32  Canada
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Ministerio
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: The US of O

Thanks for the advice people. (Even though I've played out to people before, they haven't been main sets, thats why I'm a little bit edgy) Anyways, I never thought of that! I always adjust the non-dominant track at home too (like you mentioned Tygon), but I forgot I would be doing it too at the club/place.

I already use the pitch bending on the TTs, so I'm good there.

Hey Tygon, we should meet up sometime , since you frequent the Toronto area, no?



Thanks again, we'll see how it goes tomorrow. One more thing, I'm on the online record store site, picking some choons to play, I go through about 50 pages and pick 7 tunes that I REALLY like. So what do I find out? They are all out of stock! (All 7)

Old Post Feb-17-2006 21:56  Hungary
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IntegraR0064
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Location: Phoenixville (Philly), PA

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio

Thanks again, we'll see how it goes tomorrow. One more thing, I'm on the online record store site, picking some choons to play, I go through about 50 pages and pick 7 tunes that I REALLY like. So what do I find out? They are all out of stock! (All 7)


haha, i HATE that...that's why I don't use the sites that do that. I use chemicalrecords.co.uk, dancerecords.com, planetxusa.com...the ones with real time indication of whether or not its in stock.

Good luck tomorrow, and have fun.


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Old Post Feb-17-2006 22:19  United States
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Ministerio
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: The US of O

*Ahem*

Shows been cancelled. Apparently the other guy aint doing the show there as well. (Due to there being private party) He thought I didn't want to go, because I hadn't called earlier (I just called him today - Friday, when the show's tomorrow) He told me he liked my cd, and told me that if I want, to come by next Friday...

I kind of feel wierd... sad and happy.

Well, more time to practice!


Old Post Feb-18-2006 00:20  Hungary
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skot_e
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide

quote:
Originally posted by Ministerio
*Ahem*

Shows been cancelled. Apparently the other guy aint doing the show there as well. (Due to there being private party) He thought I didn't want to go, because I hadn't called earlier (I just called him today - Friday, when the show's tomorrow) He told me he liked my cd, and told me that if I want, to come by next Friday...

I kind of feel wierd... sad and happy.

Well, more time to practice!



NOOOOOoooooo!
Haha, just have to wait a bit longer.

Old Post Feb-18-2006 02:07  Australia
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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by skot_e

Just let me play one more..... just let me play one more.... yeah I just want one more....


If I got paid everytime I heard that from young DJs I wouldn't have to do anything else.
That and also trying to hustle someone off the decks for no good reason before their time slot is finished. GAH!

But you will always get that in the DJ world.

Cheers
Nem


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Old Post Feb-19-2006 21:00  United Kingdom
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ZeJayMan
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Location: Glasgow

A good way of mixing back to back when you're not familiar with the other dudes style is to play a well known piece of music like the Warner Brothers jingle,(the one that plays before the movie) then just cut in with one of your tracks, then you've got no worries about beatmatching the other dudes track, it's lazy, but you usually get a laugh or two, then people get back into the groove of the stuff you play. Easy Does it.


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ZeJayMan
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A good way of mixing back to back when you're not familiar with the other dudes style is to play a well known piece of music like the Warner Brothers jingle,(the one that plays before the movie) then just cut in with one of your tracks, then you've got no worries about beatmatching the other dudes track, it's lazy, but you usually get a laugh or two, then people get back into the groove of the stuff you play. Easy Does it.

Sorry, i meant the fucking 20th Century Fox Jingle


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