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Originally posted by Skipper my BF is huge into hip hop...my attitude has totally changed towards it as a result. stereotypes permeate everything...

True there are some really good events. But the majority of hip hop events ive ever had to work at at any club has been trouble.

No club is 100% problem free but its well known in the entertainment industry that hip hop does tend to attract certain bad elements much more often than other genre nights.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i just find it ironic how many within the electronic dance scene preach open mindedness and acceptance of their music and at the same time hate on a scene like HipHop.. which is not to say that there isn't violence in that scene, however there is quality within it albeit largely overshadowed by stereotypes that are permeated through actions such as this.. every type music has its good and bad artists

But its not about the music and the artists. Its about the element that they attract. Music is music but the crowd that the music brings is what causes the problems.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 True there are some really good events. But the majority of hip hop events ive ever had to work at at any club has been trouble. No club is 100% problem free but its well known in the entertainment industry that hip hop does tend to attract certain bad elements much more often than other genre nights.

Agreed, my BF won't go to those events - mostly because they're so commercial and not the kind of hip hop he enjoys, but also because of the crowd those events attract. He usually makes a point of going to a few quality hip hop events every year, rather than the run of the mill commercial hip hop nights. He's a house head anyways, and there are tons more quality house nights on a weekly basis to keep him occupied!

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Originally posted by sufee_b is he part of the ape unit?

pardonnez-moi?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It happens mainly at hip hop clubs. I work in the club industry and 99% of any bullshit that goes down at a club happens either on hip hop night or in the hip hop room. Its an industrywide understanding as well.

This is true, and as you said, the old fart politicians and the media don't have a care in the world about distinguishing clubs. Hip Hop events and clubs for the most part give the clubbing industry as a whole a bad name, so a lot of great and safe events suffer for it too.

It's not always hip hop clubs, but usually it is the case. And often, the bigger and more commercial a party, usually that is when the violence and fights occur.

That's also another thing that bugs me, when you see hip hop heads at a rave, and they're not into the music or anything, they're usually just there to pick up chicks.

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Originally posted by Skipper my BF is huge into hip hop...my attitude has totally changed towards it as a result. stereotypes permeate everything...

It's just too bad life needs to imitate art in this instance.
If the scene hadn't morphed into such an egotistical-chest-thumping-nethanderalithic-bling-fest I might even spare a nano-second to acknowledge even 1% of the crap that's put out by that gendre these days...

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