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Originally posted by pvdclubber the marginal cost of supplying mp3s is virtually zero, if you neglect server costs. get over vinyl, it's dead. too bulky to carry , deteriorates with time and is too expensive.

There are enough people who are stuck on it, and this argument doesn't need to be gotten into again.

But you chose to only reply to that part of my post, please look at the rest of what I've said.

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Originally posted by Shade Some do sell their own records on their personal websites, HOWEVER individual producers don't get promoted as well without a label of any sort, and the income that would come initially doesn't get factored in if they sell it on their own.

you don't need a label to promote yourself, being on a-list djs playlists will do the trick, you just need to email them your tracks.



why wouldn't I buy a track from a less well known dj?
if the tracks good, i'd purchase off their website.

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Originally posted by pvdclubber so why don't producers sell their own records on their personal websites?

i think more artists should do that personally...so i agree with you, but the do it because of promotion like shade said.

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Originally posted by pvdclubber you don't need a label to promote yourself, being on a-list djs playlists will do the trick, you just need to email them your tracks. why wouldn't I buy a track from a less well known dj? if the tracks good, i'd purchase off their website.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't trust a site I don't know very well with my credit card number for example. And not everything that's worthwhile gets playlisted by an "A-list DJ" so to speak. It'd be pretty boring and generic if everyone played the exact same stuff as Armin all the time for example (not that that doesn't happen enough as is).

Very simple formula here:

More money = more time spent producing
Less money = less time spent producing

The less money producers get the less time they will be able to focus on producing quality tracks because they have to get their income from elsewhere.

Heres something you groupies dont understand

No promtoer wants to book a Trance DJ/Producer that isnt huge already

Its very very rare, no one gives 2 shits that you have a track on some shit label or even a good label, unless you made hits, hits are something that LOTS of DJ's around the world play.


There will be no point of making tracks if producers and labels didnt make money of them , anyone who thinks otherwise is down right stupid.

And that kind of attitude is whats wrong with Trance these days and why no one gives a shit about it anymore

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I thought this was a question about what artists usually make more on, gigs or productions... but it turned out to be a ghey thread.


oh well

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Originally posted by djtroa Some type of motivation? That's funny. I thought if you produce music, you're motivation was to want to touch peoples lives with it and to also just make a great track, not for the cash.

Indeed but equitment doesn't come cheap. The rent still needs to paid and if someone has spent years learning their skills why shouldn't they get some return in that?

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Tayfoon this is ridiculous!

F**K Me Im Famous @ Mansion - 23rd
World Session @ Klub- 24th
Playing @ Cocoon Showcase @ Nocturnal- 26th
Playing @ Robots @ B.E.D-27th
Size Vs. Refune- 28th

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Originally posted by iammesol off topic: Tayfoon this is ridiculous! F**K Me Im Famous @ Mansion - 23rd World Session @ Klub- 24th Playing @ Cocoon Showcase @ Nocturnal- 26th Playing @ Robots @ B.E.D-27th Size Vs. Refune- 28th

Why thank you

see you at one of em maybe !

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Deejays are nice people but they need to make a living like the rest of us and people seem to neglect that this is their job. Some techno deejay (whose name escapes me) plays in Latin America for free at times, so people can hear his music. Nick Warren used to play at a club for free once a month (see GU024 notes), as long as his fee was being used to better the club.

If I was a deejay, I'd do some nice things but profit drives things and they need to make a fucking living, even if they make outrageous sums of money. I work for a retail chain in Canada, people forget that we are not charity, we need to make profit to keep our jobs (all 30,000 of us nation wide).

You can only be nice so much and then people take that for granted.