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Originally posted by InfinitEuphoria I'm glad you stated that fact that a "no-status" (the government is yet to say yes or no, this is the VERY LENGTHY process) = an "illegal". This is the MOST ANNOYING, IGNORANT and FRUSTERATING part. They can send you that letter whenever they please. Just imagine what you would do at that point. JAYx1: so I'm guessing you abide by all of Canada's rules right? BULLSHIT

Do i speed once in awhile? sure. But Am I going to take the punishment when i get caught? Yes

Do i think the speed limit should be changed? Of course!

But why should i act surprised if i get caught speeding?

Same thing with illegal immigrants. They can ride the tide as long as they like but when they get caught, why should they suddenly be exempt from the punishment?

Whats fair is fair. They knew damn well they were illegally doing what they were doing. Instead of moaning and whining, perhaps their supporters who are legal residents of canada should try and have the laws changed so that their friends can enter legally.

PS i believe "no status" is in reference to refugee claiments who do have a right to be here while they are awaiting a hearing. Last time i checked, very few portuguese people are refugees. All other immigrants BY LAW must wait in their country of origin for the process to determine whether they can live in canada or not.


I love how some elements here are trying to paint a picture of me as being anti immigrant just because i happen to agree with fairness. Meanwhile ive already helped 2 close friends through the entagled web of immigration procedure. This is why i find it insulting for some people to ask that people who had NO REGARD for this process to be granted some sort of immunity. The people i know went through a long and lengthy process. Already fluent in english, one of them even learned a whole new language (french) so shed have better odds of entering the country!!! And of course when she arrived here after applying as a teacher though the embassy she got here and was told "sorry your 10 years of teaching experience and Bed arent recognized here" What a sham!

Reform the laws to make it easier for foreign trained degrees to be accepted. If we have a construction labour shortage as claimed, reform the law so that we can admit people with these skills. Meanwhile deport the ones who had no regard for the law in the first place. Once the laws have been changed they can re-apply along with everyone else.

If you are a Canadian who doesnt like our laws: CHANGE THEM by voting, questioning MPs and possibly running for election yourself.

If you are applying to live here and dont like the laws: tough shit... you dont have any right to determine our laws as i do not have any right to influence a foreign country's laws.

What ever happened to common sense?

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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They are humans, remember...

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Originally posted by Cribby They are humans, remember...

Yes, they are humans. No one here as far as I have read disputes that, except a few stupid comments made. But the point of the matter is, if any of us immigrated illegally to another country like the US or any other first world country, do you really think that we would be able to stay, unless the proper procedures are followed? No, we would not.

When you enter another country and intend on staying in that country, should you not have to follow that countries policies to do so? We would be given the same chance that is given in here in Canada, but once that chance is up, we would be deported as well, as we should be.

Our immigration laws do need to be changed, but until they are changed we must, as well as any other person trying to come here, must follow those laws. What is the point of having a law if our own gouvernment cannot enforce those laws.

Yes, we do need to change the immigration act. But, how should it be changed:

1) Should we allow just anyone to come?
2) Should we allow criminals to enter?
3) Should we allow someone who cannot provide the means to support themselves?
4) Should we just allow anyone who shows up on our doorstep to stay?

We need to stop and think that our laws are our laws and that they have been made for the better of our country. These laws have helped build Canada into the only country that I will ever call home. And I'm proud to call Canada home because of the way our social system has been built. Which is probably the same reasons that people want to immigrate here in the first place.

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Originally posted by Cribby They are humans, remember...

humans need to obey the law

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 humans need to obey the law

and u are a without a doubt the most law abiding citizen in our country by the sounds of how u speak...

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Originally posted by lopi and u are a without a doubt the most law abiding citizen in our country by the sounds of how u speak... *end sarcasm*

I call for a change in law... but i dont break them because i know there will be consequnces. There is a BIG difference

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill