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Originally posted by dj_palm anyone listened to deathmetal group Tool? THATS the most complex music iv ever heard. i cant count the rhytm and all elements comes inn as a suprpise. its freakin inzane, check out a sample

Tool is of course the best band in the entrie world, no doubt And Danny Carey is one twisted insane drummer (try listening to Ticks and Leeches, he actually does the 7/4th beat in the beginning with one hand
Also, what the fuck is up with the last part of Lateralus, when the beat goes all FUBAR, I don't even know what the hell that is

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Originally posted by Lepanto tool are death metal LMAO wow. right. anyway, no they are not complex whatsoever and a rather easy to play by someone with decent skills, i can pull off damn near all of the bass and guitar.

I quadruple dare you to play Carey's drum solos!! If you can, I'll strip naked and bathe in lighter fluid and torch myself! It's very VERY hard to do! (I am a drummer, btw.) The guitar is usually simple, but Adam is a rhythm guitarist, and he doesn't like solos, and neither do I, that's the main reason I like Tool (I'm free of all those god damn 5 minute Iron-maiden-screeching guitar solos). It's just tight, overdriven hardcore! The bass is pretty complex on parts, check out the beginning of Schism, that is just insane finger tapping on a bass (must have some pretty strong fingers for that)

But back on topic, about EDM: Yes I hate the moments when I'm listening to my music and people come right up to me and say "that sucks! you should listen to real music... like Iron Maiden or sumthin'..." , and I have to resist choking them or beating them to death with their own hands
EDM producing is MUCH harder than just doing some power chords on a guitar and calling it a rock song, you really need a thorough understanding of all the instruments (that's the reason I started playing drums and guitar, just so that I could advance my producing skills for EDM!)

PS: Tool aren't really death metal or anything, but definately metal, alright..... And I hate Iron Maiden!

first off i will gladly send u samples of ME playing my own shit if you dare to listen i'm not in a cover band. second, no it's not hard to write if u have a sick drummer. thirdly, it's not them wanting to die, if you think so you haven't heard a lyric. ESPECIALLY on parabola where it's more like he has found more faith in other albums. it's dark and experimental, and no it's not metal either, if anything metal is a STYLE not a gengre, and tool do not play metal, they are influenced by mostly art psy prog and alternative rock movements. even 311 have some metal riffs.

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Originally posted by dj_palm well i dont know much about those genres. lets call it rock then, its not so important to me what its called. and im not good at listening to lyrics but it just seems like sadistic texts, i dont know i dont care about that realy, its the music that moves me. and Tool is complex shit! send me some samples of whatever u like. i like to listen to stuff.

gimme ur email, what kinda stuff ya want?

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This thread is interesting. Most new art forms never get respect when they're created. I think EDM will get the respect it deserves late in our lifetime.

I'm sick and tired of people sayin that making TEKCNO music is easy as pie. We in this board know how hard it is. Some of us have spent hours trying to make interesting sounds on our synths, only to end up being frustrated because it's hard. We know it's hard, but the whole world sees it as twisting knobs.

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You're just about the shittiest alt ever. You're not even trying.

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dont worry about the manbag dude he is talking shit!

alt is like a fake person or duplicate isnt it?

For me it's never really a matter of how hard or easy something is to make but how good it sounds and what energy it conveys.
I think that is one of the dangers of our trade and a lot of us have fallen into the trap where we are more concerned with knowing how to make music that sounds like the pros in terms of technical quality and not always focused on the artistry.

Don't get me wrong, I have spent countless hours myself trying to get that polished pro sound and have improved my skills in terms of production quality and compositional structure a lot over the last three years on the forum.

But don't loose sight of what you are doing which is making people have a good time. If you just write for producers there is a chance that your music will become the equivalent of musical wanking so write for yourself and enjoy above all else (Hmm, still sounds like wanking he he).

I know people in bands and have played in them myself and to compare traditional methods of creating music to EDM is like comparing apples with oranges, both of them are fruits but not the same fruit.

The majority of people who encounter something that they don't understand will often talk it down.
But as Sting once said, "It takes a gentleman to see ignorance and smile".

Cheers
Nem

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Check out Squarepusher's view on electronic music:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squarepusher

I recently purchased Go Plastic. Definitely some interesting sounds on there.