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Mike_Foyle
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Well sure, you can produce a track with no understanding of recording, synthesis etc. but it'll sound awful. Hell, anyone can produce anything if you're going with that analogy... but that's not really the point, now is it? Who'd want to listen to that.

But the production in itself really doesn't differ between genres - the ideas do. And coming up with the ideas is the hardest part of producing. If you know your production tools well (if you're a good producer) you can create whatever you want... as long as you have the ideas.

That is why there is no "easier" or "harder" genres to produce.


i have to say i still disagree. not all electronic music is made with a sequencer, alot is performed live (for example)... sure there are alot of similarities but it is certainly not as black and white as "the technique is the same its just the ideas that are different"... different genres require strengths in different areas to others. the initial question was "what is easier to produce". to your average jo with little experience, some genres of electronic music are alot harder to produce than others, its as simple as that.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Afraid of being humiliated? Reputations are tools that skill lacking people use to look awesome

Humiliated? Reputations? What the hell are you talking about?

The only person humiliating himself here is you. Just let go man, you're turning this thread to something completely else than what it was supposed to be (which is what I predicted some time ago, surprisingly).

I haven't seen you comment anything that was actually on topic yet...


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
There's no difference in the actual production procedure, no matter what you do. The only difference is in the execution of the ideas.


true, but there are different degrees of difficulty with producing something to (what is generally considered) an acceptable level of quality

like i'd imagine that producing a trance tune for today's scene would be technically harder than say, a techno piece (in most cases... trance & techno are broad terms). since modern trance tends to be polished as fuck & contains lots of layers which all have to be balanced perfectly in the mix... alot of techno can get away with being rougher & raw

though i'm taking from a technical point of view. like i said in creative terms, epic trance is probably one of the easiest since you have the basic formula layed out for you already

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iammesol
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Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Humiliated? Reputations? What the hell are you talking about?

The only person humiliating himself here is you. Just let go man, you're turning this thread to something completely else than what it was supposed to be (which is what I predicted some time ago, surprisingly).

I haven't seen you comment anything that was actually on topic yet...



Look in the first post I made

Since when do you care about threads? The first thing you said was how retarded this thread was.

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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
i have to say i still disagree. not all electronic music is made with a sequencer, alot is performed live (for example)... sure there are alot of similarities but it is certainly not as black and white as "the technique is the same its just the ideas that are different"... different genres require strengths in different areas to others. the initial question was "what is easier to produce". to your average jo with little experience, some genres of electronic music are alot harder to produce than others, its as simple as that.


Sure, but like you said it's not black and white. What's hard to one producer is easy to another and vice versa. That's why there's no right answer to the original question either.


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
i would say technically its one of the easiest as well. you can pack a trance track full of lots of little sounds until it sounds full.. if its not quite there yet you can throw in some other random little synth or whatever. what IS difficult is making a track with alot less sounds, which still sounds full. becasue each sound has to fit perfectly in the mix.


i guess you could view it like that also... but still stand by my last post. guess it varies from case to case

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Mike_Foyle
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true, but there are different degrees of difficulty with producing something to (what is generally considered) an acceptable level of quality


i think id agree with that!


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Mike_Foyle
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Sure, but like you said it's not black and white. What's hard to one producer is easy to another and vice versa. That's why there's no right answer to the original question either.


ok so there is no right answer, but people will have opinions on the matter, like i did. and like many other people here did. i dont see the need to call the original poster an idiot. thats all.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Look in the first post I made

Since when do you care about threads? The first thing you said was how retarded this thread was.

No I didn't. I said the question was silly since there really is no right answer to it. It's a bit like asking for an absolute truth to "best track" etc. since there's no absolute answer to that either.

However, we did get a decent discussion going (no thanks to you) and therefore think this thread could actually be salvageable.


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Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
ok so there is no right answer, but people will have opinions on the matter, like i did. and like many other people here did. i dont see the need to call the original poster an idiot. thats all.

I didn't call him idiotic, I said the question was. Might have been a wrong choice of words, I'll admit that.


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iammesol
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
No I didn't. I said the question was silly since there really is no right answer to it. It's a bit like asking for an absolute truth to "best track" etc. since there's no absolute answer to that either.

However, we did get a decent discussion going (no thanks to you) and therefore think this thread could actually be salvageable.



So you're saying you made this better by cutting down the threadstarter?

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Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by iammesol
So you're saying you made this better by cutting down the threadstarter?

Now where did I say that?


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