drugs are bad for you because they arent normal right?
polluted air is bad for you, are you gonna stop breathing?
not excercising is bad for you, but too much is terrible as well, where do you fit in?
sitting in front of this CRT is prolly giving you a good dose of radiation...you still with me?

drugs are bad for us, hell going outside OR staying in could be potentially bad for us. drug users cant all be lumped together as 'bad people'. some have problems, some lead normal lives. its good to see that theres still a closed minded minority that listen to US govt commercials on drugs, Nancy Reagan would be proud.[sic]

meth is a drug. i would consider it a bad drug. not because of what is does to your body tho...you are your own person and your health pretty much means fuck all to me. meth is bad cause its so highly addictive that people begin to destroy OTHER peoples lives due to it. waving a finger from an IP away doesnt mean shit, get out more often and open your eyes to reality, drugs are everywhere.

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tu_face, most of what you posted flies by me except the following:

1) heroin and other opiates that fund terrorists. the other opiates you mentioned were vicotin which i took to mean vicodin and oxycotin which i took to mean oxycontin. i can see where heroin may fund terrorists or rather organized crime, but vicodin and oxycontin are prescription medications here in the US and i believe elsewhere so i do not see where these drugs would lead to funding of terrorist/organized crime activity rather than illegal products. just curious where i could read more about the subject. if the drugs indeed are vicotin and oxycotin then i must admit i have not heard of these and they very well may play the role you suggest.

2) no harmful effects of marijuana. here i would have to disagree. i have friends that smoked a lot of mj as well as a lot of tobacco and they both resulted in various forms of cancer. granted the argument could be made that it was solely the tobacco or more the tobacco but it is something to consider and not to be taken lightly. a definite direct effect of mj use is schizophrenia or other psychoses. and i know this because i saw this with a couple of adult psychiatric inpatients when i was doing my psychiatric rounds as a student and on my residency. there were five patients that i can recall that were admitted for schizophernia secondary to mj use. when the patients had periods in their life without mj use they had no evidence of psychoses. so i figure i would edumacate the rest of the TAs on that point. i don't care if you make claims for your drug of choice. just make sure you know all the details. this is a generalized statement by the way and should not be construed as a personal attack.

as for me i no longer use any substances. not for any particular reason except for the fact that i don't care to. i used to drink, smoke, use mj, shrooms, ghb, xtc, you name it and i've probably done it except for heroin. none of that stuff ever really had a hold on me, thank God. i too have seen friends struggle with addiction and it is very saddening when i realize that there is nothing that i can do to help them. it's kinda interesting when you think about a clockwork orange (if you've read the version with the complete 21 chapters) and it's like you're really self-destructive when you're young but as you age you don't have those tendencies anymore. maybe that's what happened to me. who knows and i'm sure you're all wondering who cares. just thinking out loud...on a keyboard. cheers!

lost

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the trick to ANYTHING is being informed...so here's some info on mary's hooner:420 facts

no, it wont make you do drugs if you read about them, and take this site with a grain of salt, anyone can be deceitful, regardless this is a good resource...late/

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My dead friends say "Keep away from crystal". nuff said.

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Originally posted by Lost 1) heroin and other opiates that fund terrorists. the other opiates you mentioned were vicotin which i took to mean vicodin and oxycotin which i took to mean oxycontin. i can see where heroin may fund terrorists or rather organized crime, but vicodin and oxycontin are prescription medications here in the US and i believe elsewhere so i do not see where these drugs would lead to funding of terrorist/organized crime activity rather than illegal products

i could have read the names wrong hehe.. yes they are precription drugs but vicodin and oxycontin are also made and sold on the black market. they are used now by all the film stars etc that have grown out of speed and coke... all opiates come from poppies.. most of the time the poppies used to make drugs come from the east. afghanistan had contracts with various US and UK drugs companies to supply the poppies cheaply.

i read a bit about vicodin & oxycontin in an issue of mixmag, i also saw a program on TV about various drugs that are used by the supastars.. vicodin is what they r all caning now.. its addictive as fuck and is basically herion, so steer clear ppls

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Originally posted by tu_face i wouldnt reccommend using ketamine to anyone. it is a veterinary drug used as a tranquiliser for horses. i am not a horse and neither r u .. when we go technical on it, what ketamine does is basically disconnect your brain from your body... what i mean is it dis-associates your thinking from the way you feel. thus used as a tranquiliser.. the more you have, the more you lose touch of reality. and its very easy to fall in a k-hole, which isnt nice as u become paralised and cannot hear, speak, or see properly. hope this helps

bro ketamine is not a horse tranquilizer...its a small animal tranquilizer used for cats and other small felines

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy bro ketamine is not a horse tranquilizer...its a small animal tranquilizer used for cats and other small felines

You must have some fucking big cats over there mate It was originally for horses, thought I guess it's probable that it's been modified for use on other animals.

I agree with tu_face vivid boy, "Special K" is a horse tranquiliser... I have done extensive research on all types of drugs... If you give "K" to a small mammal its gonna have the best trip in its life, and its gonna slip away without knowing about it...

Its good to see that most of the people who posted had something against drugs, because you should know by now that drugs ARE bad for you no mater how good they make you feel.

I personally have tried most of the drugs out there, including coke and heroin, and am a regular user of E, weed and hash, but believe me (for the regular users out there) the best one is weed. Its not physically addictive but psychologically it is, so in a way you can control it, and side effects are minimum.

Something to think about next time your popping an E or sniffing coke, keep in mind that ALL those drugs HAVE to be made in a laboratory using chemicals. I, being an organic chemist, can safely say that most of the drugs synthesized have a LOT of impurities and most of the impurities have a very very negative effect on your body, they may even kill you if the "chemist" mixed the wrong substances...

Don't drink and drive, smoke and flyyyyyyyyy.
Be safe.