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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
Mohammed Mossadegh was also another leader before Shah Reza, he was murdered because he gave all the profits of oil back to it's people. It was said he was killed by Shah Reza's father who was helping Britain. When Britian appointed Shah Reza, he was fine until he wanted to help the people and again resulting in his murder by Britain.


so, after being tried for treason, sentenced to 3 years in prison and placed under house arrest when he was released, the british govt only then bothered to murder him? if you say so. the guy was almost 85 years old and i love it how youre ruling out natural causes.

instead of spilling verbal garbage how about you provide some links and support for your argument. forgive me if i dont take what youre saying at face value.

also, to debunk the main theory of your argument, trying to get nuclear weapons is only going to make the west more, rather than less, interested in manipulating iranian affairs. also, lets say they have a bomb, what exactly are they going to do with it if the US decides to attack?

oh, the other thing im tired of hearing is everyone whinge about the west like theyre the only govt ever to meddle in places theyre not wanted. grow the fuck up children. international politics is a dirty dirty game, and no one has clean hands. just coz uzbekistan doesnt receive anywhere near the amount of scrutiny that the US does doesnt mean theyre not up to something.

you know what, im tired of my next door neighbours telling me to turn my music down when im mixing, im gonna go buy a gun so they keep their nose out of my business. nothing like the rationality of violence.


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Propoganda? You mean like your ever so dear leader Bush and the rest of his administration?

for a second there i remembered you saying something about substance.

whatever. so i am to understand that Iran does not export jihad globally, does not want Israel vaporized, and most likely, does not want to follow in the footsteps of Pakistan? is that the real truth behind the "propaganda"?

please, correct me if i'm wrong?

actually don't. i want to hear it from the guy that said...
quote:
The US has been meddling in your affairs for 50 years, they invade your neighbour, prop up a puppet regime to serve their interest, claim that YOU are in the "axis of evil", and start spurting out loads of propaganda that you're developing nukes, support terrorists, want to destroy Israel, etc.

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



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Isn't Iran in bed with Hezbollah?


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
Another big situation in which every single Iranian knows is how the mullahs came into power, through US and British cooperation. It was said and many people know this as a power to weaken the Iranian people. It seemed to have back-fired in America and Britians face when the Iranian people broke through that and stood up to them, resulting in all the bullying, terrorist name calling and all the mumbo jumbo you hear on TV.
forgive me while i try to wrap my brain around this: so you're saying that Thatcher and Carter were behind the revolution that put the Ahyatollah in power, right? to marginalize the true feelings of the people towards the theocratic regime? and now it's back-fired?

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Mohammed Mossadegh was also another leader before Shah Reza, he was murdered because he gave all the profits of oil back to it's people. It was said he was killed by Shah Reza's father who was helping Britain. When Britian appointed Shah Reza, he was fine until he wanted to help the people and again resulting in his murder by Britain.
...and the Brits killed the Shah?

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Isn't Iran in bed with Hezbollah?

Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbolla is Iran

it's the armed hand of the Mullahs

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tiesto14
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbolla is Iran

it's the armed hand of the Mullahs



ya but arent they terrorists?


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Q5echo
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yeah

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tiesto14
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah



well if Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbolla is Iran and it's the armed hand of the Mullahs, like you say...why is everyone bitching? Do these people want terrorists with nukes?. It's so silly how much these kids on here hate America.


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quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
well if Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbolla is Iran and it's the armed hand of the Mullahs, like you say...why is everyone bitching? Do these people want terrorists with nukes?. It's so silly how much these kids on here hate America.


What's scarier is this liberal belief that nukes in the hands of a mad-man only makes things 'globally fair' and then in the same breath, turn around and blame the West because of it...


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
It's so silly how much these kids on here hate America.


yeah, im hardly mr american lover, but its ridiculous to suggest america's meddling in the middle east is justification for developing nuclear weapons.

and people seem to forget its not just america that are against it. i guarantee you the other countries in the region wont be happy either if 5 years from now iran is conducting nuclear tests.


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deprivation
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: NYC

Iran needs to be stopped now and not just by the U.S. Iran is a dangerous country that supports terrorism, threatens to destroy Israel, and let's not forget the American hostages taken in the late 1970's.

If ever there was a country to be attacked for having WMD's, then Iran is it. The President even admits openly about nuclear capabilities and ignores the U.N. telling them not to expand their nuclear testing.

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tiesto14
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I think my little nephew can sum up this arguement like this:

MY NEPHEW:: Why does the news say we might go to war with Iran?
ME:: Because Iran might make missiles that can kill millions of people and they hate us and Israel and are involved with terrorists.
MY NEPHEW:: So they are bad guys, like on TV?
ME:: Yes!!
MY NEPHEW:: Well bad guys shouldnt have missiles like that.

And he is 7!

Seems like HardCore and the rest of people who are opposing this are just riding on the America is evil and Bush is Hitler band wagon. It is so chic to hate America right now so they feel they are in the know..what i like to call a trend follower..and they call us sheep? HA!

Funny thing is, if this was the almighty Clinton proposing this they would rally behind him and support it 100%....it is so sickening.


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