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Originally posted by DaveT Actually think it was a bit pathetic of Madonna. I can't STAND it when celebs use their fame for political propaganda. There's a place and a time to do that shit and a music event (even if it was her own concert) is NOT the place to do it. The event is about the music, the experience and not f'n politics.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Everyone has a right to speak their mind and as long as the artist upholds their end of the bargin by playing the music that people paid to see them for then I believe an artist can say whatever he or she wants.

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Originally posted by DaveT Actually think it was a bit pathetic of Madonna. I can't STAND it when celebs use their fame for political propaganda. There's a place and a time to do that shit and a music event (even if it was her own concert) is NOT the place to do it. The event is about the music, the experience and not f'n politics.

I so agree.

More than pathetic. Madonna is a bafoon.

I wish she would just rust away.

From the reviews of her "performance" sounds like she is well on her way.

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Tool played most of their old songs. i do not follow tool but i knew pretty much all the songs. i did not like 10K days album so i was afraid they would play from that album. but, i then learned they were gonna tour, so i guessed they would keep the album for the tour.

sound quality is awesome on that stage, crisp, crystal clear. this was alone worth to watch them. tool had the best sound on sunday.

their light show was very repetitive, i do not understand why rock bands have light show, it is too gay. i do not think you care about the light show anyway.

but, the crowd was subdued. i do not know tool fans, i never been to their shows. they seemed very passive, it was sunday midnight, so that might be the reason. day time temperature was 100F. i skied at mt. whitney on saturday, so it was a huge change for me, but i still had the energy.

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Originally posted by vxman Tool played most of their old songs. i do not follow tool but i knew pretty much all the songs. i did not like 10K days album so i was afraid they would play from that album. but, i then learned they were gonna tour, so i guessed they would keep the album for the tour. sound quality is awesome on that stage, crisp, crystal clear. this was alone worth to watch them. tool had the best sound on sunday. their light show was very repetitive, i do not understand why rock bands have light show, it is too gay. i do not think you care about the light show anyway. but, the crowd was subdued. i do not know tool fans, i never been to their shows. they seemed very passive, it was sunday midnight, so that might be the reason. day time temperature was 100F. i skied at mt. whitney on saturday, so it was a huge change for me, but i still had the energy.

The visuals on the last proper Tool tour were unbelievable. Nothing "gay" about it.

i wish i was able to go to see daft punk. anyone know how much plane tix are to england?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel i wish i was able to go to see daft punk. anyone know how much plane tix are to england?

Probably $1,000 - $2,000

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I read recently Madonna wanted to do a collaboration with Aphex Twin so she can have a more "experimental edge" to here music. His response was, "You're old and outdated, you must accept this"

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Originally posted by flavdave The visuals on the last proper Tool tour were unbelievable. Nothing "gay" about it.

Hes a homophobe, don't mind him.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Mylo played "drop the pressure"....it was awesome. Glad the crowed died out after Madonna set was over.

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Originally posted by DaveT Actually think it was a bit pathetic of Madonna. I can't STAND it when celebs use their fame for political propaganda. There's a place and a time to do that shit and a music event (even if it was her own concert) is NOT the place to do it. The event is about the music, the experience and not f'n politics.

Agree with this. There's some artists that can do it well and others should just sssssshhhh & play their music.

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Originally posted by flavdave I couldn't disagree with you more. Everyone has a right to speak their mind and as long as the artist upholds their end of the bargin by playing the music that people paid to see them for then I believe an artist can say whatever he or she wants.

But no one goes into a concert wanting to hear political propaganda. It's not about whether she has the right to speak her mind or not. It's about the right and wrong time to do it. People play to hear her music. They do not pay to hear some political speech.

I forget which major artist it was, but one was doing a stint of several shows in Vegas a couple years ago and on his/her first night, he or she did something like this and 1/2 the audience walked out and were so upset the resort/venue cancelled the rest of the concert dates and gave everyone refunds.

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Originally posted by DaveT But no one goes into a concert wanting to hear political propaganda. It's not about whether she has the right to speak her mind or not. It's about the right and wrong time to do it. People play to hear her music. They do not pay to hear some political speech. I forget which major artist it was, but one was doing a stint of several shows in Vegas a couple years ago and on his/her first night, he or she did something like this and 1/2 the audience walked out and were so upset the resort/venue cancelled the rest of the concert dates and gave everyone refunds.

Linda Rondstat

It sure shows a lot of forward thinking Madonna to berate President Bush at a music festival . . . hu?

Why not do something really courageous and watch one of your husband’s dreadful films?

Now that would take balls.

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