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Originally posted by flavdave Bush: Hey you know what I hate? People making phone calls without us keeping track of who they are calling. Rove: Ok, let's blow up the World Trade Center.

ok... that was informed

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Originally posted by dcougar99 ok... that was informed

It's what you were saying though. You're claiming that 9-11 was a plot to give the "elites" more power by taking away our freedoms. And you just proved my point that it's a ridiculous theory.

This site responds to a lot of the 9-11 conspiracy theory claims.

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

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Originally posted by Aureus link or stfu, i demand it what wind? all the debris fell inward... the towers imploded, as they do during a controlled demolition. watch the film! there is nothing that can be argued with

I'm not gonna explain it to you cause you dont understand fully the field I study in...But heres a rough description,

A massive tall building, sways. YOU DONT SEE IT. BUT IT DOES. You go the the shears towers or the petronas towers and you go to the top floor. You put a bathtub full of water, and you would see the water sway even after a few mins, even after a few hours.

But wait.. this doesnt really happen does it? AND DO U KNOW WHY?

Because counter balance has been implemented into the building. This is how you avoid earthquake disasters.This is why you no longer see long bridges sway side to side.

Now that the Twin towers has a few floors of infrastructures been smashed due to the crash, the top few floors just cannot handle the wind elements.The tensile stength of the steel has been significantly reduced due to the high high temperatures. The beams in the top floors give way and from there it was buried due to the weight.

What did you expect? The top half just toppling off sideways just like that? My dear boy, this isnt a lego set.

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Originally posted by Aureus i just don't understand how. everything is explained and sourced! the documents are there, the witnesses are there, it's just there's no 'demand' for the 'truth.'

dude are you a troll or something, calm down. just cause some people chose not to believe this conspiracy (and it is a conspiracy) doesnt mean you have to get all touchy. These "facts" have been around for a long time. I suggest you find the popular science article that debunks a lot of the myths surrounding 9/11.

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Originally posted by flavdave It's what you were saying though. You're claiming that 9-11 was a plot to give the "elites" more power by taking away our freedoms. And you just proved my point that it's a ridiculous theory.

dont think so... lets have a little hisory lesson here.

Hitler wanted power so he took advantage and lied about the Reichstag fire.. blamed it on the current gov. then took over power by suspending the constitution.

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The Reichstag fire, a pivotal event in the establishment of Nazi Germany, began at 9:14 PM on the night of February 27, 1933, when a Berlin fire station received an alarm that the Reichstag building, assembly location of the German Parliament, was ablaze. The fire seemed to have been started in several places, and by the time the police and firemen arrived a huge explosion had set the main Chamber of Deputies in flames. Looking for clues, the police quickly found Marinus van der Lubbe, shirtless, inside the building. Van der Lubbe was a Dutch insurrectionary council communist and unemployed bricklayer who had recently arrived in Germany.

Adolf Hitler and Hermann Göring arrived soon after, and, when they were shown van der Lubbe, Göring immediately declared the fire was set by the Communists and had the party leaders arrested. Hitler took advantage of the situation to declare a state of emergency and encouraged aging president Paul von Hindenburg to sign the Reichstag Fire Decree, suspending the basic rights provisions of the Weimar constitution.

read more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire




This is fact. Its history and history has this way of repeating itself. Im not saying that it was all the Bush admin. but they knew about it and let it happened or helped it along. Just wait till something like this happens again... youl see a complete police state via martial law. camps and all. Infact Halliburton is building "containment camps" as we speek. look it up

Yeah, 9/11 was staged.

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Originally posted by Protege dude are you a troll or something, calm down. just cause some people chose not to believe this conspiracy (and it is a conspiracy) doesnt mean you have to get all touchy. These "facts" have been around for a long time. I suggest you find the popular science article that debunks a lot of the myths surrounding 9/11.

yeah the strawman article... that article has been debunked as well just google it.

there is a lota disinfo out there on 911... so you cant bundle everyone together. Some are way off base etc. I stick closeto things that are based on facts but dont make any sence.

conspiracy - a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act

many people have the impression that a "conspiracy" is a "theory"... when infact is is not... hell if you buy a dimebag a weed you can get charged with conspiracy. but you add conspiracy into a converstaion and everyone thinks your a nut job...

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One more thing, why would the US want to destroy two huge buildings, and kill thousands of American lives? You would have to be a complete dumbass to say 9/11 was some big conspiracy theory. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of these people spouting all of these speculations and crazy conspiracy theories.

Just shut the fuck up.

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This movie is total bullshit.

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Originally posted by dj_bas This movie is total bullshit.

Yep, just more bullshit propaganda spouted by insane conspiracy theorists. Put on your tin-foil hat.

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Originally posted by placebo One more thing, why would the US want to destroy two huge buildings, and kill thousands of American lives? You would have to be a complete dumbass to say 9/11 was some big conspiracy theory. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of these people spouting all of these speculations and crazy conspiracy theories. Just shut the fuck up.

hahahaaa... do some research like I said before... you must watch a lota mainstream media but come on dont tell us to "Just shut the fuck up"... freedom of speach is a good thing you know.


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