^^^ Thanks for posting that stevieboy32808.

@ Shakka: Now go eat your mf'n words bitch.

EDIT: And @ donnybrasco, nothing personal, but STFU already.

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Two things, even if the polls are legit.

1. The definition of "cover-up" can be pretty ambigous in this case. It ranges from not disclosing all the facts in a timely manner to aliens blowing up everything with approval from GW, the Iluminati and baby Jesus. There's a big difference between a cover-up to the magnitude of a bomb going off at the Pentagon instead of a plane crash to Mrs. Smith thinking GW didn't tell her everything when she wanted to know it.

2. Sorry, but "so what?" I bet 90% of five year-olds think Santa Claus is real, 90% of old people think everyone is out to get them and their money, and 90% of people could convince themselves in a conspiracy for just about anything.

The polls lead a lot to interpretation and even more to people's own doubts, fears and naivete.

"W. David Kubiak, executive director of 911truth.org, the group that commissioned the poll..."

Is it any wonder that this group comissioned this poll and is now interpreting its results as they see fit? It's all in how you ask the questions and how you interpret the answers. I am STILL positive that if you walk around asking New Yorker's or anyone in the U.S. if they think the U.S. Government is behind the 9-11 attacks, you'd be lucky to find 1 in 1000 who think this.

Stevieboy; Glad you found the zogby poll, but please explain to me exactly how you got to the CNN Poll on the CNN website, as this appears to be nothing more than a link to a gif., and you can hide web addresses under assumed names, no? When I try to trace it backwards through the CNN site, it keeps coming up "page not found". Walk me through how you got there on the site.

And NeoPhono is right; The Zogby Poll is not saying there was a conspiracy. It's saying that some people think that SOME officials may have heard that there might be an attack on or about 9-11, but didn't take any action. This doesn't mean that they were covering anything up. It simply means that they weren't doing their jobs, or, they didn't believe their own Intel because they simply didn't think something like this could happen.

We all know this already though. This is nothing new. The Intel Community didn't do their job, even though they had enough pieces of the puzzle that they should have been able to put it together...simple human error! Nothing more.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Stevieboy; Glad you found the zogby poll, but please explain to me exactly how you got to the CNN Poll on the CNN website, as this appears to be nothing more than a link to a gif., and you can hide web addresses under assumed names, no? When I try to trace it backwards through the CNN site, it keeps coming up "page not found". Walk me through how you got there on the site.

I took advantage of the wording from the poll question and went to Google. Then I typed the following key words into the search engine:

"coverup surrounding 9/11 site:www.cnn.com"

The poll is the first link that pops up. Also if you change the poll number in the URL you'll notice a collection of closed polls, hence my use of the term archives.

I am still having my doubts about this CNN poll and it legitimacy.

But I tell you what;

Assuming it is correct, in what context is this question being asked? I wonder what news item sparked the poll if it is legitimate? To me, the question can be easily interpreted like the Zogby poll question. "Cover-up" of what? If you go back and read some stories I found on the CNN site, like this one;

Graham Asserts Cover-up

..you'll find that what passes for "cover-up" in these headlines has more to do with covering up Intel failures, NOT trying to hide that the U.S. governemnt attacked it's own country!

People are grabbing headlines and turning them in to something they're not. There is no "cover-up" in this way...never was. You're trying to make something out of headlines and loose interpretations shaolin Z!!

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Originally posted by dcougar99 you may be very surprised at how many people agree, that 911 was an inside job.

yes!!! you are right...they usually consist of janitors, disgruntle employees, nomad computer geeks and guys who grew up playing dungeon and dragons cus they werent cut out for little league.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 ... but your also set in your ways so its not worth my time. we can agree to disagree.

I cant...however i can agree you are delusional.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 Zogby poll says that 49% of New Yorkers polled believe bush and this administration are complicit in the 9/11 attacks.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 you may be very surprised at how many people agree, that 911 was an inside job.

yes!!! you are right...they usuallu consist of janitors, disgruntle employees, nomad computer geeks and guys who grew up playing dungeon and dragons cus they werent cut out for little league.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 ... but your also set in your ways so its not worth my time. we can agree to disagree.

I cant...however i can agree you are delusional.

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Originally posted by dcougar99 Zogby poll says that 49% of New Yorkers polled believe bush and this administration are complicit in the 9/11 attacks.

There are 3 types of lies - lies, damn lies and statistics
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z They're not photochoped. I VOTED on the damn poll myself, and it was removed pretty soon once roughly 90% voted that they believed there was a Government coverup.

you votes? HA! this is why i dont look at polls...they are taken by crack pots. no offence.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN the viewpoints of the moronic american public are pretty irrelevant to the rest of us.

Bigot!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN here is a public that voted bush in x2, but now they think he was complicit? fickle, ignorant slack-jawed halfwits. i reckon theres a damn good chance that the opposite of whatever the US public think is the truth. when the average US citizen can find me iraq on a map, ill start listening

Thanks for the insight you kangaroo riding, koala bear humping, fosters drinking retard with a wannabe English accent

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^^ Thanks for posting that stevieboy32808. @ Shakka: Now go eat your mf'n words bitch. EDIT: And @ donnybrasco, nothing personal, but STFU already.

So CNN is your source? yet if i was to use to promote a positive Bush instance you would say i am blinded by the trickery the media does and that CNN is run by corporate America....i love how u crazy people flip flop....cute..yet disturbing.

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This just never ends.

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