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Originally posted by LazFX Typical response there I owe you coke Smitthers....

you yank!

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Originally posted by Lemonad First off, i'm not filthy rich, we escaped Iran as soon as the Iran-Iraq war finished and second of all, i know how most people in Iran feel. People i've known for a long time have turned to stealing and drugs, which i might add is a higher problem these days than it was when Shah was in power.

every society has problems and Iran has its own.people steal and do drugs in canada as well.who is going to save Canada then?

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When you go to Iran and say your from a Western country, they actually want listen to your stories cause they know because of their depressive situation under this regime, they cannot experience any of those.

Now thats not true.They may not do the things we do here openly but TRUST me they do alot,they party and drink more then me and you.

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We need proper leaders, i don't understand why you object to this.

I agree we need better leaders,and by that I dont mean shahs son or those terrorist pigs that call themselves mojahedins.

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Mine aren't realistic? Well that's original. Look dude, stop saying Shah this, Shah that. I'm saying mostly Shah because he was the last king we had that actually wanted to revive most of the Persian beliefs. He wanted to make the country strong, make the country more modern and give everyone a fair chance; the same things that Cyrus The Great proclaimed.

If he was so great then why did he get fucked over by his own people? Do you remember the millions of people that were on the street wanting him out power?were all those people terrorists too?

you see the mullahs promised the people that they will bring freedom of religion,because shah used to assault and embarrass people with muslim beliefs.
for example His secret police used to assualt muslim women if they had their hairs covered.
so the mullahs worked their way into peoples hearts(with the help of Americans) and gave them false hopes.That is why the people of Iran want nothing to do with America anymore,I mean why would they?these are the same Americans that brought the mullahs to Iran simply because they were scared because they gave shah way too much power and they thought shah could fuck them over one day.

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After Islam came into power, we did have kings like Pahlavi that wanted to revive the Persian way of life, but then we also had leaders like the mullahs in power of Persia who wanted a strict way of life. If history has told us anything, these mullahs will be out and a proper Persian leader will be in power in time.

lets hope for the best and hope that we wont get fucked by the west once again

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I don't understand hardcoretrancer though, he doesn't explain his attacks.

I sure do.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Now thats not true.They may not do the things we do here openly but TRUST me they do alot,they party and drink more then me and you.

Now, thats bullshit!

Go watch a Iranian film called "Crimson Gold" and there is a bit in the movie where it depicts real party-goers in the film. You have cops waiting outside behind walls just waiting for people to finish from the party to come out and you have them arrested.

There was also a funny part where a pizza delivery guy is held outside from delivery to the place because of the arrest and he notices a 15 year soldier and asks him something in the lines of "So, do you have fun?", the soldier replies "What's fun?"

My parents also told me thats how it is.

You know let me tell you a little history of how Islam brutaly came into Iran. The prophet Muhammad sent Rome, Persia and another country each a letter and told them to convert to being a muslim or they will be attacked. The Romans and the other country didn't reply at all but the Persians shreded the letter and spat on it and sent it back to Muhammad. After Muhammad got ill, they attacked Persia because he said no to their threats.

You see at the time we had the Sassanid Dynasty who were a selfish bunch, they didn't care much about the poor people, they only cared alot and treated the rich very well. When the preachers from the Arabs came and spread their lies just ike they did with 1979 Revolution, people accepted and the Persian empire was overthrown. Yet you actually respect a bunch that ruined Persia.

You see, Muhammad could have easily been like the Ayotollahs and had their way of thinking, does that really sound like how a real prophet thinks of ordering a religion onto people.

Accept the religion, or die! Thats how they thought back then and now.

I just hope people don't start a riot now.

I don't know if that little history but was relevant but it is necessary to say of how they came and stayed, now they must go.