hmmm.. ok!

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Originally posted by jahnlay Actually, eJay's samples are great, as long as u don't use them with eJay software, chuck them in any decent software and they rock!

Nonsense mate. Ejay is the pinnicle of software tracking and currently is the only way to channel the voices of angels into a 192 kbps mp3.

I. Shit. You. Not.

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Originally posted by DJFreaq I played Descent I & II, and was hooked on industrial/electronic music from then on. Pretty simple.

Duuuuuuuude! I forgot all about that... That was one of my finest memories of .mid music in video game history.

Care to share your favorite tracks?

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Originally posted by Four_On_Four-er Duuuuuuuude! I forgot all about that... That was one of my finest memories of .mid music in video game history. Care to share your favorite tracks?

Lol. I gotta dig it up first. But the nice thing about Decent 2 was the actual audio tracks from Ogre/Skinny Puppy.

That was the tits. Damnit, now im really mad i threw away all my old macintosh games last weekend.

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Originally posted by jahnlay No, the actual sound of the Fruity Loops software isn't great, it's really bad. I haven't tried rewiring it into another audio angine, as that may solve the problem, but by itself it sounds like a toy. I'm a professional mastering engineer, with 12 years experience, trust me, Fruity Loops sound sux. If you compare it to any other software like Cubase, Ableton, Reason, Logic Audio, Sonar or even Project 5, you'll see what I mean. The quality of the sound is inferior. Not the musical ability, you can do anything on it, the sound quality. If you think I'm bullshitting you, ask any professional (not a professional salesman, lol).

Dont use the FL stock synths

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Originally posted by jahnlay No, the actual sound of the Fruity Loops software isn't great, it's really bad. I haven't tried rewiring it into another audio angine, as that may solve the problem, but by itself it sounds like a toy. I'm a professional mastering engineer, with 12 years experience, trust me, Fruity Loops sound sux. If you compare it to any other software like Cubase, Ableton, Reason, Logic Audio, Sonar or even Project 5, you'll see what I mean. The quality of the sound is inferior. Not the musical ability, you can do anything on it, the sound quality. If you think I'm bullshitting you, ask any professional (not a professional salesman, lol).

Actually, I blame the fact that it's affordable. Most people investing $150.00 on competend sequencing software is not going to use it so a "professional" level (myself included).

That's why it sounds plastic. Granted, I do not like much of the timbre's from the 3xOSC (the TS-404 has some redeemable sounds to me). Otherwise, the worlkflow is faster with some VSTs that I can lazily slap on there and twiddle briefly.

I'm not jumping to conclussions here. Are you dismissing the synths that come with FL (3xosc, and TS) or the audio sequencer itself.

THe mp3 encoder uses LAME (I think), and that seems competent enough for me.

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there are many pro users of fl studio
here is a page with interviews from several 'power users' of different genres.
http://www.e-officedirect.com/FLStu...ts/SUB_119.html
You might want to pay particular attention to matthew dear and mike oldfield. These are very big names. Deadmau5 and Toby Emerson share actual fl tracks to go over, which is a great gift, to dissect a pro track. They are great educational tools for seeing how to construct a track. Hats off to those two guys for being so cool.
everyone of these programs, reason, protools, fl studio, etc has a pro user somewhere. it's the artist or producer's talent that makes the tool, not vice versa.
that being said, i have both, and reason is much easier to start with. all those usable presets and intuitive gui are appealing. but it gets old after a while, and everyone's stuff sounds the same. i am just beginning to understand the power of the fl studio processing. those are some very bright sound engineers. they didn't really have trance composition in mind per se though. they were thinking of a protools sort of device. at $349 you can't really get non-plastic sounds to pop out easily unless your knowledgable about sound design. since these programs are really just using the sound chip in your computer and the cpu, it's all the same at some level. you could use free c-sound like the universities do and get any sound you want. . .
but if you already own fl studio, like the thread starter does, blowing more money on reason is not going to help his creative dilemma. in fact, he could download the reason demo and see what he thinks. but i'm sure he'll find the problem is most likely on an artistic level. (like mine.)

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My interest in EDM goes back a little ways...

Does anyone here remember the band Marrs? They had a single titled Pump Up The Volume.
I heard that song for the first time when I was a kid and I really liked it, unfortunately there wasn't much electronic music being produced during that time or at least any that was readily available or getting any exposure so I eventually started listening to heavy metal and picked up guitar.
I also took piano lessons in school so I was taught the basics like chord structures, scales etc, we had a piano at home I would practice on but the music I was practicing really had no relation to electronic music.
As I grew up I continued my studies in guitar aspiring to be the next Edward Vanhalen (like every other kid that played guitar back than), anybody who knows the heavy metal community knows that electronic music is considered 'taboo' by most metal musicians so although I continued listening to the electronic music scene that was about the extent of my ventures with it.
I played in a few bands and I remember one of the bands I joined had a keyboardist, I remember he had a Korg Poly 800, whenever he wasn't at rehearsal I would sit down and plink on it while we weren't practicing.
He eventually sold me that keyboard when he wanted to upgrade and I spent a fair amount of time writing riffs on it, but again, it was mostly heavy metal type stuff.
Eventually as time progressed I lost most of my interest in electronic music due to the fact that alot of the music was starting to sound alike and very 'manufactured', not to mention it was next to impossible to find anyone where I was living that was interested in it.

Fast forward to about 3 years ago, while browsing around in a record store I came across a 3 cd pack labelled Trance Anthems by Deca Dance, I had no idea what Trance even was but on a whim, mainly out of curiosity, I bought it and took it home for a listen.

Upon hearing Energy 52's Cafe Del Mar and Alex D'elia's Isn't Life Wonderful I was hooked again, just like when I heard Marrs Needs Women when I was a kid.
I had to know more about how this music was being produced, what instruments were being used etc etc.
I spent alot of time reading and alot of time at the record store buying up anything I could find with the word Trance on it.
At the same time I purchased a couple of synths, I already had a digital multitracker for my guitar music, I started reading about MIDI and basically figuring it all out.
I ended up with a Yamaha DJX, Yamaha Motif, Roland MC 303, Mackie mixing console and lots of cables hahaha.
I stayed away from software sequencing until recently here primarily because being a guitar player I thought purists most likely wouldn't use a computer to make their music, I figured they'd do it all the hard way with multitrackers and synthesizers.
The more I read about software sequencing and software studios the more it became apparent to me that computer based sequencing was the logical way to go.

I understand trance music and I understand the basic song structures, I've written a couple of pieces that I'm not all that proud of, I know this is definitely a work in progress and that it takes time to get a firm understanding of all of the elements that go into making good music in any genre.

On a funny note, although I still listen to metal from time to time, I find myself listening to EDM much more.
Heavy metal just seems so angry and the music thats being produced in that genre today leaves a little bit to be desired in my opinion.
Electronic music is much more fluid I think, I'm much more entertained by trance type music.

Well, that's my story.

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