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Psiweaver
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Culver City United States

yeah rotary is where its at. Yeah lots of hate on the xones lately but like anything that gets hyped up its the same story. hate on every hyped mixer ever. Partly jealously and partly people fighting the mainstream type thing, plus some who really prefer something else. Anyways. Any and all faders can crap out but a djm600 probably sooner than a xone.


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CReddick
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles (Burbank), CA

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
only one way to find out


That was a loaded quesion on my end... I already tried that and still experienced the same issues. I'm leaning towards JUNK MIXER.


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kimchi
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Downey, CA

quote:
Originally posted by CReddick
That was a loaded quesion on my end... I already tried that and still experienced the same issues. I'm leaning towards JUNK MIXER.


your going to have to replace the crossfader. thats what died out on you.

http://www.djkit.co.uk/acatalog/crossfaders.html

something like that.

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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
thats just wear and tear.

worn faders bleed, its not the 600 or the Xone, its just crapped out faders.

Xones may (but I'm not sure here) have longer life faders, but a new 600 and a new Xone will bleed the exact same amount (none).

In my experience, the faders on the Xone:62 have been much more prone to wearing and even breaking off the PCB tracks under club use.

Probably about a third of the Xone:62's I've played out on (i.e. about 5 or 6 of them) have had at least one knackered channel fader, I've only ever seen one once on a DJM600.


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CReddick
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles (Burbank), CA

quote:
Originally posted by kimchi
your going to have to replace the crossfader. thats what died out on you.

http://www.djkit.co.uk/acatalog/crossfaders.html

something like that.


I don't even use the corssfader. It's not patched to any channels. This is frustrating.


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kimchi
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Downey, CA

quote:
Originally posted by CReddick
I don't even use the corssfader. It's not patched to any channels. This is frustrating.


your probably using the through settings for the channel fader, but the fader is still bleeding.

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brinboston
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto<->Boston<->NYC

sup everyone....

i have a xone rotary..... apparently you should NEVER getting bleeding on the faders (regardless of linear or rotary on the 92) because they are VCA faders.... the sound signal doesn't actually pass through the faders because it is voltage controlled. someone correct me if i am wrong?

- bri


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Rememberence_
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Registered: Oct 2002
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Just thought I'd add some info to the thread...

I've got a Xone:32 and someone was a little rough with the channel 1 upfader. As a result it's fkd and I'm yet to get a replacement part. Seems as though they are fragile parts, after reading Stu Cox's post. On the topic of upfaders, I love the feel and the sound of the xone:32 and xone:62 faders. The faders on the xone:92 (linear) however, I hate. They are too light and feel awful. Best fader I've ever used? Rane MP/XP 2016a hands down!!

I don't think the filters on the xones are useless at all. You can be very creative with them. Apart from sweeping effects, using the filter as a different method of EQing during transitions is great.

I like the four band EQs on the 62 and the 92 also, but prefer the 32/62 style knobs. Whoever said that you wouldn't be able to benefit from having 4 EQs if you use nearfield monitors is a dumbass. Nearfield monitors are made to be accurate, not loud. There's no way that you would get a nicer frequency response, especially not on a club system and especially not with the acoustics of most clubs.

I've used a lot of DJM 500/600 consoles and the majority of them had noticable channel bleeding.


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CReddick
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles (Burbank), CA
UPDATE!

Just wanted to post an update to this topic...

I'd isolated the issue to channel fader 3... took the fader cover off and retrieved it's model number. Called Pioneer Electronics and ordered a new fader for $24. Replaced it in about 90 seconds.

All is well, and mixers works good as new.


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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Sherman Oaks, Ca
Re: UPDATE!

quote:
Originally posted by CReddick
Just wanted to post an update to this topic...

I'd isolated the issue to channel fader 3... took the fader cover off and retrieved it's model number. Called Pioneer Electronics and ordered a new fader for $24. Replaced it in about 90 seconds.

All is well, and mixers works good as new.


We have bigger Goldfish to fry now.


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Trogdor
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Ah, a good old-fashioned mixer bashing. It's OK, it happens to every mixer that is dominant at the moment. The DJM-600, a perfectly good mixer, was the target of some misguided and ill-informed bashing for a long time. Looks like we have a new king! Long live the Xone:92!

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quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
Ah, a good old-fashioned mixer bashing. It's OK, it happens to every mixer that is dominant at the moment. The DJM-600, a perfectly good mixer, was the target of some misguided and ill-informed bashing for a long time. Looks like we have a new king! Long live the Xone:92!


I wasn't bashing the Xone:92... I was "bashing", if you want to call it that, ALL Xone mixers, and not some misguided and ill-informed bashing. This is after hands on use.

And I didn't start this as a debate, as I previously post, it's just my opinion.

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