OH...MY....GOD... You are dumb. What did the end of my post say?????? what did the beginning say?????? THE WHOLE POST WAS A JOKE. you sensitive little bee itch. Now I really DO think im better than at least 1 person on this earth.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 whats your point with that statement???...Manhattan is more populated then London so of course there would be more waste...in a house with 4 people u will have more waste then in a house of just 1..thats just COMMON SENSE.

Could you just remind me of the area of Manhattan, my US geography is really bad, but isn't it an area of New York or am I listing the wrong place?

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well MAYBE u should of read the bottom of Orbax's post where he said for the most part what he wrote was JOKE..i am sure this was part of the joke not meant to be taken literally..so i dont think u need to say he has his head up his ass

I KNOW he sed MOST of it was a joke, but some of the arguments he put forwards are ones I have heard before, I was merely counteracting them for those sorts of people.

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Well America projects OPPURTUNITY, more over then other countries, to become wealthy from nothing...thats why they may look up to us.

100% agree, that's what I sed

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EVERY country has gloabal giants that exploit people and every country is divided between the rich and the poor...thats more COMMON SENSE

Yes, but to different extents. In some countries the divide is much smaller.

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I agree with u there

lol how cud u not agree with me there, esp. being a tiesto fan

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he never said killing people...he meant that if anyone tests Americas resolve in warfare that we will show the world we will not stand for it and will fight with extremes...as would any country

True, but sometimes war is not the best answer e.g. Iran & 'critical engagement'

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well noone, not even America can defend against a blind-sided attack

That is exactly what I said?

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such as the cowardly attacks of September 11th.... and not for nothing but the terrorists couldnt even attack us taht good when u REALLY think about it...

Of course I don't agree with the attacks made on the US but what do you expect a poor country like Afghanistan to do against a 'super' power like the US. Like it or not the US is one of the most powerful military forces in the world.

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the survival rate of September 11th was around 93% of the people targeted that day..thats a better rate the heart disease and most any other disease..so it goes to show u that America may not of been prepared but we sure withstood it with a superb survival rate....

Survival rates don't really come into it, it was more symbolic that anything else.

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well your post is a classic example of someone with very little common sense....tell me this why is it that more people wanna live in America then ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD....lemme see cus we have more oppurtunities and freedoms...sorry but thats the truth

We have obviously had some misunderstandings. I was merely using Orbax's post to highlight some of the downfalls on America as his post did make some genuine points in defence of the US.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 OH...MY....GOD... You are dumb. What did the end of my post say?????? what did the beginning say?????? THE WHOLE POST WAS A JOKE. you sensitive little bee itch. Now I really DO think im better than at least 1 person on this earth.

for the MOST part your post was a joke. However I have heard the kinds of things stated in your post made by other people seriously. I was merely using them as the BASIS to provide some arguments against the US. If you read my comments they do not entirely rely upon your post.


Anyway, obviously I have failed to make my arguments clear, constructive and well understood. Sorry, especially if I have offended anyone.

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Originally posted by vmc But the point is that the US are expanding their culture and that's the thing that annoyes lots of people. The McDonaldisation of the society, culture - you know what I mean (I don't know the proper English term).

This is NOT America's fault!!! Blame it on our companies, not our country!

We use Japan for all of our Electronics, and have lots of cultural influence from other countries in ours. (in Texas, we don't bitch about it being Mexicanizing...)

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ALso there are stereotipes of Americans being egoistic and mind-closed people, who thinks the only good culture is their own and never learn foreign languages.

hehheheheehehe...this is kind of true, with the foriegn languages. i don't think it's a big deal though, every country has their little faults...

I like the U.S., it's not the "Whole World" of course, but it's a well-meaning country.

Just so happens we're the superpower, so we get the most critizism, most responsibility, most influence...so...people either love us or hate us.

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I think America sometimes get seen badly by the rest of world, a lot of Americans are nice, people but I've also though met a lot more America people who act like arrogent wankers with there heads stuck up their arse then have with any other nationality, but all countries have bad all countries have good.

I hate some acts the American Government have done, not the people, I think American Congress can fuck off out of everyone elses business, for a starters the 3 Irish National Citizens, found in Columbia supposidly training F.A.R.C. rebels is no one elses business, they have no right saying any of them 3 are IRA terrorists, the part I most disliked was the Americans openly contacted the British government about it, its nothing to deal with UK and its not their fault, the US government have made a mountain out of a mole hill, and its situation the Irish government and Columbian government should deal with no other nation, regardless on what intelligence the US hold. If the US government want to act like that and rat out on people, then chances are next time an offical visits Eire, they will get sprayed with bullets. Yes Columbia produces most of the Cocaine that hits the streets of the USA and every other nation in the world, but drugs war and pure snooping is another thing.

The only other thing that pisses me off, is this we're the best attitude, that some Americans have it gets old and it gets annoying, everyone is proud and patriotic of their home country and they have a right to be like that, but the we're the best we rule attitude, makes people hate you more, regardless of what power you have the world doesn't make you better and certainly doesn't give you the right to speak down to any other nation, you may have the money, you have the technology, but for an instance in Desert Storm, General Schwartzcoff picked the British Special forces the SAS, over your own, and openly in public called them the best special forces unit in the world, so your not the best at everything. I world people should consider it great that we have so many different, Nations and Cultures, we can all learn a lot from each other, the top dog we're best we rule attitude ruins that because people think that your arseholes as simple as that.

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