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| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
If you really believed that the world was a great, big place with lots to do and lots of people to meet, then why would you hang yourself up on only liking one variety of person? |
i wouldn't necessarily say that people who keep it simple and real are a specific group of people, like for example, "rockers" or "tree hugging hippies". i think the type of people i'm talking about are actually part of a more broad classification. like really, there's only 2 people in this world. people who are content with themselves and drama-free and dont really go out of their way to be a certain labled image...there's no hidden agenda really. i think it's refreshing that's all. and then there's people who are the opposite. confused, angry, "deep", emotional, "artists", dramatic creatures who are really just narcissists. lol
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Marily Manson may go out of his way to put all of his odd tendencies up front, but how do you know that what you see isn't what you get? |
well if that's the case, then i DEFINITELY dont like him. i'm not really down with S&M freaks in metal diapers on stage feeding on young, angry, confused teenagers to fill his pockets.
| quote: | | Perhaps he is one of the most honest people out there. |
maybe, but do we (or you) know this for a fact? i think not.
| quote: | | In my experience, the most normal-seeming people are the ones with the most to hide. |
Yes that is true too. People with issues come in all shapes and sizes. I agree with you here.
| quote: | | People who revile the odd things in life and are afraid to tolerate things that do not support their prejudice are the ones who are truly fucked up. |
Ok, so I'm fucked up because I loathe beastiality and incest? I'm just thinking of two "odd things in life" here. Yes these 2 things do not support my "prejudice" so i'm fucked up. MM is into some pretty raunchy and disgusting things that he performs on stage, and i honestly do not care for his music. this does not make me afraid to tolerate it. i just don't like it. you're looking too deep into this when really it's quite simple. lol
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Manson's great act is that he pretends to be a hateful, prejudiced person, garnering as much attention as he can get while still having some depth to his character. |
well then, if he "pretends" and doesn't show his true colors, who is really afraid here? and he shouldn't be surprised or amused at all by people's reactions which are quite predictable. he's not doing anything new or meaningful here if you ask me.
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People critical of this and the message behind his music will come to realize that he is prodding fun at religious and prejudiced America by pretending to hate or support whatever is most controversial. |
so does he really even know who the fuck he is or what he stands for? lol
| quote: | | When we feel so much towards a certain subject, it can sometimes blind us - |
agreed. trust me, i'm not some bible preaching freak either.
| quote: | | I guess the great goodness behind Manson's art is that he exposes this feeling, this elicited hatred and addresses it, dissects it in front of everyone so we can see what we do to ourselves. Like I said, it's all an act. |
i'm sorry but i still fail to see any reasoning behind bringing more hatred into this world than there already is. or even disecting it, stirring it up, instigating it, whatever he does.
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I guess if you think he's stupid or something, that's cool too.  |
no but when i think of him, i think of a funny line from dennis leary's "no cure for cancer" when he talks about people in therapy griping about their childhood. "my mother didn't love me...my father didn't pay attention to me, waah, bla bla bla"
leary: "SHUT THE FUCK UP, NEXT"
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But the more you hate him, the more you play his game. Laugh at him, call him a fag, whatever...listen to his music and maybe you'd realize who is laughing at whom. |
*thinks*
nah, i'm still laughing at him. lol and really, this is the only time i get into arguments about the guy. i'm sitting here bored to death at work, and this is stimulating for me, but trust me, i dont go into these long winded arguments about marilyn manson all the time in person. the guy hardly crosses my mind, unless i turn on my favorite rock station, hear that his song is on "personal jesus" and then i think, "ehh, no thanks" and change the station
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Hope you don't think I am trying to change your mind about him or anything - it's pretty apparent that your opinion is cemented into your head. Cemented opinions are funny though. The more your opinion stays the same, the smaller your world gets. But it's a great big world with lots of different people in it, right? |
are you assuming that i'm this narrow-minded conservative?
you're wrong if you are.
and i dont think you're trying to change me or my opinion. i know you are. lol
it's all good though, i like arguing with u. 
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| quote: | Originally posted by notelfreak
man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone |
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And the work he did on the score for the first Resident Evil movie was great as well.
